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Postby dowhatnow » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:26 pm

WARNING: compressing in trial mode will permanently "brand" the output with the trial mode "watermark" text. Are you *certain* you want to continue?


That's the error I get when trying to render and preview my project. I've tried this once before, and it did indeed stamp the video for about 2-3 seconds. All it is is the stamp for the codec and its website. Any way you guys know of to get rid of this? The codec is PICVideo M-JPEG 3 from Pegasus Imaging.

Also, I want my video to include Kanji. What font do I use, or is it that simple?
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Postby Willen » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:26 am

Since this is for a preview, unless the watermark is covering something important, I wouldn't worry about it. To get rid of it, you'd have to change the trial software to the full thing which means $$. As an alternative, you could use the M-JPEG encoder in ffdshow, but I'm not sure as to the stability of it since I've never used ffdshow's M-JPEG.

Hopefully, someone who has more experience with using M-JPEG for previews from Premiere will show up. I use Magix and it does a surprisingly decent job of outputting 1-pass XviD video straight out of the program when I want a preview (I still use VDubMod for final distro compression).

As for Kanji, unless you know what you are spelling/saying when you use it, I'd personally avoid it. I'm not too familiar with Japanese fonts other than what WinXP installs when you enable Japanese language support. If you can get Kanji/Kana text to show up when you type, then it is basically personal preference in font choice (like how people like to use Impact, or Comic Sans. Arial is my personal favorite :P ).
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Postby dowhatnow » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:32 pm

Willen wrote:As for Kanji, unless you know what you are spelling/saying when you use it, I'd personally avoid it. I'm not too familiar with Japanese fonts other than what WinXP installs when you enable Japanese language support. If you can get Kanji/Kana text to show up when you type, then it is basically personal preference in font choice (like how people like to use Impact, or Comic Sans. Arial is my personal favorite :P ).


I do know what I'm writing, I just don't know how to get it to show up in my title files! XD

Also, I want to use XviD as my finished product's codec. How do I do this from Premiere, or can it be done that way? If not, how?

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Postby Scintilla » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:42 pm

jonnkakarotto wrote:Also, I want to use XviD as my finished product's codec. How do I do this from Premiere, or can it be done that way? If not, how?

It's possible to do it straight from Premiere; it's just a really bad idea (the resizing sucks, the postprocessing sucks or is non-existent...).

What you want to do is export it from Premiere with a lossless codec like HuffYUV, then compress THAT file down to an XviD version with another program, such as VirtualDubMod.

More info on that starting either here:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... xport.html
or here:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... xport.html
depending on what version of Premiere you have.
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Postby dowhatnow » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:23 pm

Thanks a bunch. Now, about that kanji... Anyone?
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Postby Scintilla » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:30 pm

I'd suggest finding a font with the characters you need, then going into the Character Map and copying the characters and pasting them into Premiere's titler. I know I've at least gotten だ and ダ before.
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Postby dowhatnow » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:53 pm

Scintilla wrote:I'd suggest finding a font with the characters you need, then going into the Character Map and copying the characters and pasting them into Premiere's titler. I know I've at least gotten だ and ダ before.


Which font did you use? I'm using MS PGothic right now, and it's making me very angry.
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Postby Scintilla » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:56 pm

I used BatangChe, but I don't know why MS Gothic and MS Mincho wouldn't work just as well.
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Postby dowhatnow » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:40 pm

OK, if you are sure it looks good then we can continue. What was the final size of the video? If the size is small enough for you to go ahead and distribute (40mb is the average size for a 3 or 4 min simple amv) then your encode is complete!

However, if your first pass encode is on the big side (between 70 and 120mb) then you will need to do a second pass to reach a desired filesize. If your first pass is bigger than 120mb you should consider reducing the frame size of your video or doing heavier filtering. The question is, what should that filesize be?


From the compression part of the guide. My other question is: What would be the norm for a video that runs around 7 minutes?
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Postby dowhatnow » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:44 pm

Scintilla wrote:I used BatangChe, but I don't know why MS Gothic and MS Mincho wouldn't work just as well.


I hate to double post, but I didn't see that one before I posted that last one... I've tried everything I can think of, an none of it is working. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
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Postby Scintilla » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:49 pm

7-minute videos are usually "on the big side". Of course, this is also affected by things like how much motion you've got going on.

I don't think many people would complain if you had a 7-minute video and it was just under the site's local hosting limit (100 MB).

And as for the kanji, it's perfectly possible that I'm mistaken and it's not actually possible with Premiere's titler, in which case you'd have to make the text as a .PSD file or a transparent image in Adobe Photoshop (or The GIMP, or what have you). Which isn't so bad, really, it's just an extra step.
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Postby dowhatnow » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:52 pm

Scintilla wrote:7-minute videos are usually "on the big side". Of course, this is also affected by things like how much motion you've got going on.

I don't think many people would complain if you had a 7-minute video and it was just under the site's local hosting limit (100 MB).

And as for the kanji, it's perfectly possible that I'm mistaken and it's not actually possible with Premiere's titler, in which case you'd have to make the text as a .PSD file or a transparent image in Adobe Photoshop (or The GIMP, or what have you). Which isn't so bad, really, it's just an extra step.


Fair enough. Is it possible to open the .ptl files, or copy their content at least, into Photoshop? I'd think it is, but I'm usually mistaken.

I just tested out how my video looks after a first pass encode, and I'm wondering... Since it encoded the audio with it, would I need to compress it (the audio) separate from the video (minus the audio from editing in Premiere) and then put them together for distro? Also, if the video happens to come out to a little over 100 MB after encoding, where would I host it?

The last, and probably the most n00bish question I've asked thus far: What's the difference between the site's Direct and Local hosting? I'm guessing Direct is for uploaders that donate x amount per month and local is for uploader-wannabe leechers like me, but again, I could be wrong.

Thanks to everyone who's helped me so far.
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Postby Scintilla » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:04 pm

jonnkakarotto wrote:Fair enough. Is it possible to open the .ptl files, or copy their content at least, into Photoshop? I'd think it is, but I'm usually mistaken.

I've never used any version of Photoshop newer than 5.5, so I wouldn't know.

jonnkakarotto wrote:I just tested out how my video looks after a first pass encode, and I'm wondering... Since it encoded the audio with it, would I need to compress it (the audio) separate from the video (minus the audio from editing in Premiere) and then put them together for distro? Also, if the video happens to come out to a little over 100 MB after encoding, where would I host it?

You don't have to; you can encode the audio separately and join them later, or you can just compress the audio and the video in the same run. And if that does happen, then you'll have to either host it on your own webspace or encode it again with a lower target bitrate.

jonnkakarotto wrote:The last, and probably the most n00bish question I've asked thus far: What's the difference between the site's Direct and Local hosting? I'm guessing Direct is for uploaders that donate x amount per month and local is for uploader-wannabe leechers like me, but again, I could be wrong.

The answer is that direct hosting isn't the site's hosting at all. :P

A <b>DIRECT</b> link is one that points directly to a video file that's hosted on <i>your own</i> webspace; for example, all my videos' direct links point to files on http://www.aquilinestudios.org/ . You add <b>DIRECT</b> and indirect links in the Links part of the Enter New Video process. On the other hand, <b>LOCAL</b> links are added automatically by the system when you successfully upload videos to the local server.

There is no special tier of hosting for donators. Any member can upload videos to the local server as long as they follow the rules, and any member can download them.
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Postby dowhatnow » Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:12 am

So, where would I host my video (preferably for free) if it gets over the 100 MB mark and I'd rather not take the bitrate down any further than I have to?
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Postby Scintilla » Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:33 am

I don't think you're going to find anyplace that will give you that much space for free, except for the websites meant for sending single files such as YouSendIt, MegaUpload (HATE), etc. I haven't used those sites enough to know much about them, except that I'm pretty sure YouSendIt links expire after a certain amount of time or a certain number of downloads, unless you pay.
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