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Postby usd2020 » Sun Oct 06, 2002 1:03 pm

is there a way to make my video's file size smaller? i've only made one video but its 80 megs and i think thats too much
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Postby Lyrs » Sun Oct 06, 2002 1:20 pm

Use a different type of format.

Realmedia, wmv, quicktime, etc. Some of these smaller formats may work, but the quality will definetely suffer.

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Postby The Wired Knight » Sun Oct 06, 2002 1:23 pm

What is the codec you have currently? If you encode in real player it takes a 67 meg file down to three. Course the quality becomes utter crap.
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Postby usd2020 » Sun Oct 06, 2002 1:30 pm

i have no idea which codec i'm using, I dont know much about these things, i just went to export timeline then movie in adobe premiere
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Postby shinto » Sun Oct 06, 2002 1:46 pm

I have had lots of problems with filesize. I have found that the best thing to use is Windows Media Encoder because you will get small files with reasonable quality. You can download it from the Windows Media Player Site.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Oct 06, 2002 1:55 pm

Ignore the last person. Encode using either DivX, XviD or MPEG-1. I encode in XviD for broadband users and RM for 56k users, and together, they only take up about 35MB of space. I'm also switching from using HuffYUV files to MPEG-2 files for CD backups.
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Sun Oct 06, 2002 2:07 pm

go to http://forms.real.com/rnforms/products/tools/producerbasic/index.html and down at the bottom download helix producer basic. Export your timeline as avi with huffyuv compression, and then load the avi into helix producer. If your video is 320/352x240 you can get by with good quality at 512 kbps video and 64 kbps audio, which would give you about 15 mb for a 4 minute amv.
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Postby Sub0 » Sun Oct 06, 2002 2:25 pm

RadicalEd0 wrote:go to http://forms.real.com/rnforms/products/tools/producerbasic/index.html and down at the bottom download helix producer basic. Export your timeline as avi with huffyuv compression, and then load the avi into helix producer. If your video is 320/352x240 you can get by with good quality at 512 kbps video and 64 kbps audio, which would give you about 15 mb for a 4 minute amv.


I'm no pro like you but I use the DivX 3.11 codec at 250bps and 64kbps DivX :) audio and my 4 min vid is 8mb... coarse it's just Robotech (old 'anime') so maybe that's why the quality is comparible when not fullscreened. maybe a newer Cowboy Bebop vid would be more touchy when it comes to lowering bitrate. Regardless, I would never suggest you use DivX 3.11 at any bitrate cept a low one (it's always butt-ugly at fullscreen) ;-p.
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Sun Oct 06, 2002 2:43 pm

nnno :O dont use the divx audio codec, its very very bad in a lot of ways
the best thing to do for audio in an avi is make an mp3 with LAME and mux it with the avi in nandub
personally though I use vorbis audio with the video muxxed in an ogg file
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Sun Oct 06, 2002 2:55 pm

RadicalEd0 wrote:the best thing to do for audio in an avi is make an mp3 with LAME and mux it with the avi in nandub


no it isn't and if you'd read my audio guide you'd know why.

You should use the LAME codec but you should ideally give it WAV headers and mux it with virtualdub (not nandub). The current edition of the audio guide doesnt really go into this in enough detail but the updated version I have written does.

It will be released along with the new video guides.
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Postby Lyrs » Sun Oct 06, 2002 3:03 pm

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Postby RadicalEd0 » Sun Oct 06, 2002 3:12 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:
RadicalEd0 wrote:the best thing to do for audio in an avi is make an mp3 with LAME and mux it with the avi in nandub


no it isn't and if you'd read my audio guide you'd know why.

You should use the LAME codec but you should ideally give it WAV headers and mux it with virtualdub (not nandub). The current edition of the audio guide doesnt really go into this in enough detail but the updated version I have written does.

It will be released along with the new video guides.


yapyapyap. Ideally you wouldnt use avi at all, ideally mcf would be finished, ideal this ideal that
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sun Oct 06, 2002 3:17 pm

TMPGENC, use that to compress your video after its finished.
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Postby priuscomet » Sun Oct 06, 2002 3:30 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:TMPGENC, use that to compress your video after its finished.


yeah, but it doesn't take much off. :?

i had a 47 meg file....and it went down to roughly 37...

he's got a whopping 80 meg file. i don t'think 70 is gonna get him anywhere.

and why is your vid file so freakin huge!? ><
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Sun Oct 06, 2002 4:35 pm

RadicalEd0 wrote:yapyapyap. Ideally you wouldnt use avi at all, ideally mcf would be finished, ideal this ideal that


You were the one who said "the best thing"

I know you know lots about audio/video technology but I think you'll realise when you actually finish a video that in order to make the thing in a form that everyone can play you have to dispense with many of the new-fangled toys due to incompatibilities and the general public's unwillingness to try new things.

I'm just making people aware of what works best for amv distribution, not works best for your personal dvd rips, so forgive me if I keep appearing and telling you that you are wrong. You are smart enough to be able to make your own desicions about such tech matters but not eveyone is, so try and avoid giving people advice that is not appropriate for their needs.
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