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Post by jedikv » Sat May 13, 2006 10:47 am

Thanks Ladymercury, for your time and effort in writing this guide. This is one of the best vegas guides ive seen.

Keep up the good work

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Post by FullmetalBG » Sun May 14, 2006 6:16 am

The guide rox.:)
It made thing so muck clearer.I tried doing things on my own a couple of times and - nothing.But a question-the rendering takes 25 minutes for a 10second clip........
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Post by Ladymercury » Sun May 14, 2006 11:42 am

Rendering is all about how fast your computer is and what quality your rendering your video in.

For me to render a 2:28 clip with no video, just effects (moving background, flashing text, etc) takes me about... 6 minutes or more, depending on how many resources I'm using. This is also encoding the video in NTSC Multimedia (320 x 280) at the lowest quality ever.

If you're encoding at full NTSC resolution at the highest quality, it will take a long time for the video to encode. Each computer is different.
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Post by FullmetalBG » Mon May 15, 2006 7:29 am

Thanks for the info.
And i tried new stuff- i mean in rendering.I did the stupid thing rendering the movie in .avi format...It was 800mb o_O :shock:
Then i messed with the quality and resolution and the 10sec clip was 2mb
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Post by Ladymercury » Mon May 15, 2006 9:16 am

Also, your codecs come into play too. If you're not compressing the video, then of course, an AVI file can come up to 800 megs.
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Post by FullmetalBG » Mon May 15, 2006 12:33 pm

Compress it..
How to do that?
But still how can it be possible for a 10sec clip to be 800mb -i mena when i saw it i was like "o_O" :p
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Post by Coderjo » Mon May 15, 2006 2:09 pm

FullmetalBG wrote:But still how can it be possible for a 10sec clip to be 800mb -i mena when i saw it i was like "o_O" :p
Uncompressed video is HUGE (like XBOX).

Let's take your 10 second clip. Let's say it is 640x480 in RGB32 (4 bytes per pixel) at 23.976 fps. Let's also say you used CD audio, which is 44100 samples per second, 16 bit, stereo (which is 4 bytes per sample).

audio: 44100 * 4 * 10 = 1764000 bytes (1.764 meg)
video: 640 * 480 * 4 * 23.976 * 10 = 294617088 bytes (294.6 meg)
total: 294617088 + 1764000 = 296381088 (296.4 meg)

and that doesn't even include the overhead introduced by your container format (such as .mov, .avi, .mp4, .mkv, etc)

I'm not sure how you got an 800mb clip, offhand. 10 seconds of 720x480 @ 29.97 RGB32 is only 414305280 bytes (414 meg) for the video, which is the largest part of your file.

I suppose if your frame size is larger than 720x480. 1024x768 @ 29.97 RGB32 is 942774682 bytes (943 meg) for 10 seconds...

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Post by amvwizard » Tue May 16, 2006 8:44 am

FINALLY ITS BEEN STICKIED!!!

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Post by Ladymercury » Tue May 16, 2006 9:33 pm

Section VII part 2

Now, we're gonna jump back a few steps.

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I use SmartRipper to rip my DVDs. Find the chapter with your DVD player, find it in SmartRipper and rip away.

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I encode with DVD2AVI, sometimes I may use VirtualDub like I did with my Clones AMV

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Now you wanna know how to mask? Its simple go to your pan/crop feature and click on the little Mask check box.

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The tricky part is here, use your 'anchor' tool and cut around your character... as closely and as tight as you can get it. It takes a while to get used to because of how sensitive the anchors are when connecting, but with practice you'll be a pro. When you're done placing the anchors, right click the path and select ' Close Path ', this will then place the 'mask' into place. It gets more involved if you have more layers.
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Post by Ladymercury » Wed May 17, 2006 9:12 am

amvwizard wrote:FINALLY ITS BEEN STICKIED!!!
I know :D I feel speshul.
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