Animazement 2006 AMV Contest (Durham, NC)

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Animazement 2006 AMV Contest (Durham, NC)

Postby Kurai Seraphim » Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:53 pm

Hey guys, that time of year again. The rules can be found here..

As a point of interest, I'm taking a more personal approach this year. I'll be in contact with everyone who enters the contest for some period of time before the convention to make sure your entry survives the perils and potholes of the information superhighway (yay outdated internet slang!), so hopefully the contest and convention itself will prove more user friendly this year.

There will also be an AMV panel at the convention this year, so if you're present try to drop by. I'm trying to get the AMVers to meet one another face to face and take people out from behind the harsh glow of their monitors long enough to get social. There will be some egumication too, of course.

If you have any questions, please contact me at amv@animazement.org or over AIM (Kurai Seraphim).
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Postby MCHeadcase » Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:55 pm

I was wondering when someone was gonna make a thread about it...


I'm making last minute changes to mine right now and I should have it for you in the mail by the end of this week
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Postby Kurai Seraphim » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:10 am

I would have made it sooner, but I wanted to wait for our FTP situation to resolve. Given it apparently isn't going to, I didn't see much of a reason to continue delaying. I'll e-mail you once I receive your mail-in entry and I'm e-mailing everyone shortly before the convention to make sure everyone who is in the contest knows that they're there. Nothing burns more than waiting through a contest you only *think* you're in.
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Postby Kurai Seraphim » Thu May 04, 2006 12:35 am

Just a general reminder that online submissions have to come through in the next few weeks to make it into the contest. IM or e-mail me for more information if you're interested in submitting things digitally.
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Postby greenjinjo » Sun May 28, 2006 8:57 pm

No one has updated this yet?

Here are some basics, I'm a bit busy at the moment so I apologize if any of these are mispelled or have the wrong names....

Conservation Award:
Save Konoha's Rainforest (Sorry, don't remember the exact title)

Fan Favorite:
AMV no Baka 2

3rd Place:
The Cat who Won't Cop Out (with Totoro)

2nd Place:
Asuka is teh Suck

1st Place:
Can't remember the name but it had Wings on Honnemaise (sp?) to Major Tom

If anyone can please update this with the correct titles and links to the videos, that'd be awesome :P
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Postby jbone » Sun May 28, 2006 9:34 pm

greenjinjo wrote:Conservation Award:
Save Konoha's Rainforest (Sorry, don't remember the exact title)

Fan Favorite:
AMV no Baka 2

3rd Place:
The Cat who Won't Cop Out (with Totoro)

2nd Place:
Asuka is teh Suck

1st Place:
Can't remember the name but it had Wings on Honnemaise (sp?) to Major Tom

If anyone can please update this with the correct titles and links to the videos, that'd be awesome :P


Which of those was the one that ripped off Nightowl Pictures' Brian's Song?
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=97676

From a reliable source, I heard that one video directly took from Brian's Song, and won an award from it.
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Postby Brakus » Mon May 29, 2006 11:14 am

Quick feedback on the contest this year:

-- You need a consistent playlist. You have a 2 hour Main Events timeslot to fill with videos. Those that make it go on the 2 hour timeslot. Those that don't, they go in the overflow. I know you received 7 Advent Children videos. Those that fit can stay. Those that didn't fit can go to the overflow. It's not like all of them were all on the same level of goodness; you needed to determine what videos stayed in the main showing and what videos went to the overflow. You can't just go "we'll show 3 on Friday and 3 on Saturday"; that would defeat the whole purpose of separation.

-- I was irked that my video -- which was the last one in the contest -- wasn't played on the Saturday reshowing, and was shown only once during the entire weekend. I noticed you cut off Saturday's reshowing at 10:45 when you started at 9am. Two hours means two hours, no more and no less. If I am a finalist, my video deserves to be shown at ALL main showings of the contest, not just the Friday one.

-- Also, if possible, please categorize the videos on the title card, if you're not going to group them by category. (Put the tyoe of genre on the title card.) In addition, there should be a "no credits/bumpers/logos" rule; a video that's entered for submission into a contest should not start with a production logo nor end with credits; that's what the title card is for.

I know this is only the second year you've done the AMV contest; here's hoping that next year's can improve on this year's one.
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Postby MCHeadcase » Mon May 29, 2006 12:18 pm

greenjinjo wrote:1st Place:
Can't remember the name but it had Wings on Honnemaise (sp?) to Major Tom


Its bugging me cause I've been trying to find this video ever since I got home and I can't... not on this site or any other...
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Postby Kurai Seraphim » Mon May 29, 2006 10:11 pm

Brakus wrote:-- You need a consistent playlist. You have a 2 hour Main Events timeslot to fill with videos. Those that make it go on the 2 hour timeslot. Those that don't, they go in the overflow. I know you received 7 Advent Children videos. Those that fit can stay. Those that didn't fit can go to the overflow. It's not like all of them were all on the same level of goodness; you needed to determine what videos stayed in the main showing and what videos went to the overflow. You can't just go "we'll show 3 on Friday and 3 on Saturday"; that would defeat the whole purpose of separation.


I'm well aware that not all of them are on the same level of goodness, but I didn't put "Your video has to be good" in the rules so I can't hold that or the fact that other people made videos using the same footage against people. Goodness is an opinion and in all honesty if we were to go off of my personal choices of what's good and what isn't we would have a significantly shorter contest all around. While that might sound nice for some people, I try to get the most exposure for the most people in hopes that people who are inexperienced maintain their interests and improve over time.

Furthermore, if I'd shown all of them in overflow then we'd have watched 5 Advent Children videos in overflow and the problem would have been even greater. I directly contacted every single person who sent me an Advent Children video in advance of the contest and informed them of their options and everyone who replied was happy with the result, so that's what I did.

-- I was irked that my video -- which was the last one in the contest -- wasn't played on the Saturday reshowing, and was shown only once during the entire weekend. I noticed you cut off Saturday's reshowing at 10:45 when you started at 9am. Two hours means two hours, no more and no less. If I am a finalist, my video deserves to be shown at ALL main showings of the contest, not just the Friday one.


For clarification, 2 hours does not mean 2 hours at an Anime convention. 2 hours means 1 hour and 45 minutes in the real world where rooms need to be set up for the following event. The Saturday contest fell victim to technical issues at the start and halfway through, so it was delayed a bit and that was enough to clip the last two videos. That was not intentional and I'll do my best to avoid that in the future. For what it's worth, I put yours as the last video because I wanted to end the contest on a good note at each showing so that people would be satisfied and talking on their way out of the room.

And Friday is the main showing. Period. What I do on Saturday is meant to be an encore where I go through as much as I can in the time I am given. I am sorry your video was shown only once, but it was shown during the spotlight showing in one of the most coveted spots on the playlist and that's the extent of any garantee I could give anyone accepted into the contest.

-- Also, if possible, please categorize the videos on the title card, if you're not going to group them by category. (Put the tyoe of genre on the title card.) In addition, there should be a "no credits/bumpers/logos" rule; a video that's entered for submission into a contest should not start with a production logo nor end with credits; that's what the title card is for.


Animazement doesn't do categories, so to speak, because in all honesty we don't seem to get a variety of videos. Most of our entries fall into the comedy category and as a result we put everything together. The request in the rules to classify your video is there because I personally devise every playlist to alternate between "active" and "passive" videos. Anyone who has ever been to an amv contest with multiple slow videos in succession will tell you that you fall asleep and none of them get the credit they deserve, so this is my attempt to ease that. In hindsight, I should have put your video and the 0080 video closer to the start of the Sunday playlist given they were clipped from Saturday and I can't make any excuse for that beyond lack of foresight.

The title cards were an experiment on my part this year that seemed to work, so I will be cutting people's bumpers next year. This was my experimental year for a number of options because I want 2007 (Animazement 10) to be as smooth and efficient as I can possibly handle. Some things worked, some didn't, but hopefully it'll all work out.

I know this is only the second year you've done the AMV contest; here's hoping that next year's can improve on this year's one.


Thanks for the support there. I'm trying to make the contest into one that's as favorable to the amv creators as it is to the viewers, so things can get kinda shakey. I hope my responses didn't come off as snappy as they weren't intended to be; I'm merely trying to explain my situation in hopes that you can all provide me with input as to how you would like to see future contests run.

If I could get some feedback on what you would and wouldn't like to see regarding the idea of the overflow, I would really appreciate it. I like the bumper cards and plan to continue doing them (and requiring all bumpers from the actual amvs to be clipped), but I'm still uncertain about overflow. I have received a number of personal thanks from people whose videos made it into overflow and they seem to feel more confident in their future videos, but this doesn't change the fact that it spreads the contest to well over two hours of entries. I know it's going to come down to a decision of personal preference but that's an easier decision to make when I've heard the opinions of the people actually in the contest. Would you rather have a better chance of having your video shown at some point or would you want to have your video shown three times throughout the weekend knowing that the Sunday showing is generally low population without the promise of new videos?
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Postby Kurai Seraphim » Mon May 29, 2006 10:20 pm

jbone wrote:Which of those was the one that ripped off Nightowl Pictures' Brian's Song?
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=97676

From a reliable source, I heard that one video directly took from Brian's Song, and won an award from it.


Eh, not so much. One of the videos (AMV no Baka 2) included a really really short spoof of the clip in that video where the Puchu chant really quickly, but that was hardly what made it win anything. It also spoofed Osaka's Daydreams and AMV Hell 3. None of these segments actually contributed to it's award of Fan Favorite, however, as the audience didn't really laugh at those parts. They didn't get the references and weren't laughing at those. Calling AMV no Baka 2 a ripoff of Brian's Song would be like saying Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a ripoff of Homestar Runner because they made one Trogdor joke in one episode.
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Postby Kurai Seraphim » Mon May 29, 2006 10:22 pm

MCHeadcase wrote:
greenjinjo wrote:1st Place:
Can't remember the name but it had Wings on Honnemaise (sp?) to Major Tom


Its bugging me cause I've been trying to find this video ever since I got home and I can't... not on this site or any other...


I'm about to put together a full playlist and do what I can to find everything. If it's still no go, I'll contact the creator and at least find out if he intends to upload it somewhere. He might be holding out for the results of other AMV contests, in which case we'll just have to respect his wishes and wait. Otherwise he just might not have gotten a chance to upload it yet. Stay tuned and I'll see what I can do.
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Postby Brakus » Tue May 30, 2006 6:12 am

Kurai Seraphim wrote:For clarification, 2 hours does not mean 2 hours at an Anime convention. 2 hours means 1 hour and 45 minutes in the real world where rooms need to be set up for the following event.


Other conventions can do a 2 hours of AMVs and still fit within the 2-our timeslot (Katsucon, AMA, ACen, to name a few). This is something that obviously needs to be worked on for next year.

And Friday is the main showing. Period.


Not everybody gets to the convention on Friday or even Friday afternoon. I live 3 1/2 hours away, and I had to go through hoops just so I could have a half-day at work on Friday so I could arrive in time to see the entire showing. If I didn't get that, I would have never seen my video at all.

Again, if I made the final cut, then my video deserves to be shown at ALL main showings -- and by that I mean with all the other videos that also made the cut. None of this "we'll show some on Friday and some on Saturday" business. I can understand if my video isn't shown during the overflow, although it would have been nice this year if it were shown then because it wasn't shown on Saturday.
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Postby Kurai Seraphim » Tue May 30, 2006 1:44 pm

Two solid hours of videos in two hours leaves no time whatsoever for the next event to set up. Animazement is a convention driven by panels, cosplay, musicals, dances, and a variety of other events that require very different technical setups. If the other conventions you have been to are capable of setting this up, then the following events are either identical in format (which doesn't work for this convention as we try to avoid clustering such events to give people interested in them time to actually eat and get ready for the next one) or they let themselves run behind.

The AMV contest that runs on Friday night happens to have a reasonably good timeslot that makes it the Friday "main event". We rerun videos on Saturday morning in hopes of helping people in your situation, but this is done for a much smaller crowd with a much lower priority and calling it a main showing would be a joke. As I said, barring technical issues the plan is to get through as much of the original showing as possible on Saturday morning and usually we manage to do this, but when bad things happen they happen and I compensate to the best of my ability to avoid spreading our delay into every panel that runs for the rest of the day. If your video is shown on Friday night to the hundreds of people in the main showing, the very same people who make up most of the Saturday rescreening crowd, then I'm going to cut it if it prevents a domino effect that cuts into someone else's panel that only gets one showing during the weekend. People can download amvs on their own time when the con is over, but they can't get a Q&A with their favorite guest through an internet connection. Trust me, I'd like for music videos to be a high priority and to treat Animazement like an early summer AWA, but the fact of the matter is that Animazement is a well-rounded convention and if your video made it into the main showing then anything after that is a bonus.

This "we'll show some of them Friday and some of them Saturday" business you're talking about applied with the consent of the people it involved and had nothing to do with you or your video. I've already explained that technical issues bumped your video from the Saturday showing and that's the best I can do for you.

Finally, if you're going to have trouble making it to a contest you can always let me know. I e-mailed everyone whose video was at the beginning of the Friday playlist to let them know not to be late for the contest. I e-mailed everyone whose Advent Children video would be shown only once and let them know when it would be shown and shifted them around the playlist appropriately for one day visitors. I e-mailed everyone in the Sunday showing at let them know their video was only going to be shown on Sunday. Next year I will e-mail everyone whose video is near the end of the playlist and give them an opportunity to shift it closer to the middle of they want, but that's all I can do. It's a Friday night event that resolves on Saturday night with an AMV panel on Sunday and it's intended to be a full weekend event. The availability of videos online makes that possible.

And for what it's worth, I liked your video this year and it went over pretty well with the crowd. I kinda want to see Desert Punk now, so I'd say you succeeded. The Spriggan one was good too.
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Postby jbone » Tue May 30, 2006 6:50 pm

Brakus wrote:stuff

Brakus, you're whining. Stop.

Each contest is an independent entity. Each contest is entitled to create its own rules and regulations. Many contests also have a "because we said so" clause.

You are not a great and omniscient entity who holds the ultimate power of truth within your loins.

You degrade the quality of your feedback by needlessly and repeatedly complaining that Animazement was not fair to you.

Life's not fair. Deal with it. Your video got cut due to time, it happens at many contests. Life will go on.

You are entitled to your opinions. However, Animazement will not change its rules simply because you believe they are not fair to everyone. Many people feel the rules and showcase are plenty fair, and even more people don't care either way. And an even greater number of people have never heard of you. (Sometimes, I wish I were a member of the lattermost number, but I digress.)
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Postby Kurai Seraphim » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:17 pm

As promised, here's a listing of all of the videos in the order that they appeared in the contest, with winners noted seperately. I'll have links to the ones downloadable from Animemusicvideos.org as they go up.

Winners
First Place: Boyd Hale - Major Tom (The Wings of Honneamise to Peter Schilling's Major Tom)
Second Place: *Green Jinjo - Asuke is t3h Suck
Third Place: Mark Mucchetti - The Cat Who Won't Cop Out (My Neighbor Totoro to the theme from Shaft)
Fan Favorite: *Mr. Panda - Amv no Baka 2
Conservation Merit Badge: Nakagaki - Save Konoha's Rainforest (Naruto to the National Arbor Day PSA)


Friday
1. Jessica Baker - Walk Away (Advent Children to Good Charlotte's Walk Away)
2. Dr Raven - The Mark of my Sins
3. WolfNinja34 - DNAngel Tonight
4. *Mark Mucchetti - The Cat Who Won't Cop Out (My Neighbor Totoro to the theme from Shaft)
5. Shippochan - Full Metal Love
6. The Zelda Master - Godzilla vs Mecha Godzilla (Godzilla vs Mecha Godzilla to Chevelle's The Clincher)
7. Gogglegirl01 - Kingdom 24
8. *Boyd Hale - Major Tom (The Wings of Honneamise to Peter Schilling's Major Tom)
9. Lil'Yakka - Dreams of Darkness
10. *Nakagaki - Save Konoha's Rainforest (Naruto to the National Arbor Day PSA)
11. *Green Jinjo - Asuke is t3h Suck
12. Wildrose - The Battle for Blood Gulch (Halo/Red vs Blue to the Aliens vs Predator trailer)
13. Jade Eyed Angel - Through the Tears
14. Igo4mars - Camera Obscura (Chrno Crusade to Enigma's Camera Obscura)
15. Therax - All New for '72
16. JubJub2 - My Fair... Lady?
17. Sanada Usako - Love Remains
18. Surfin Pika - Spiral
19. Manpurse - Asuka's Confession (I'm Not Wearing Any Underwear Today)
20. Kumagarou - Always
21. SSGWNBTD - Evangeliback Mountain (Neon Genesis Evangelion to the Brokeback Mountain trailer)
22. Jesse Gay - Elfen Leid to Evanescence's Taking Over Me
23. Grant Hicks - Pokemon X (Pokemon: Mewtwo Strikes Back to Drowning Pool's Bodies)
24. Asahikari Productions - Have this Heart to Break
25. Christopher Stadther - The Moment of Truth (Slayers to The Moment of Truth from the Karate Kid)
26. *Mr. Panda - Amv no Baka 2
27. Niotex - F.E.A.R.
28. Majyn Goten - Advent Aerials (Advent Children to System of a Down's Aerials)
29. Xarathion - Dreams in a Pocket (Gundam 0080 to Van Halen's Dreams)
30. Brakus - Watch Out! It's Desert Punk!

Saturday
1. Lupus 6 - Advent Oblivion
2. Dr Raven - The Mark of my Sins
3. WolfNinja34 - DNAngel Tonight
4. *Mark Mucchetti - The Cat Who Won't Cop Out (My Neighbor Totoro to the theme from Shaft)
5. Shippochan - Full Metal Love
6. The Zelda Master - Godzilla vs Mecha Godzilla (Godzilla vs Mecha Godzilla to Chevelle's The Clincher)
7. Gogglegirl01 - Kingdom 24
8. *Boyd Hale - Major Tom (The Wings of Honneamise to Peter Schilling's Major Tom)
9. Lil'Yakka - Dreams of Darkness
10. *Nakagaki - Save Konoha's Rainforest (Naruto to the National Arbor Day PSA)
11. *Green Jinjo - Asuke is t3h Suck
12. Wildrose - The Battle for Blood Gulch (Halo/Red vs Blue to the Aliens vs Predator trailer)
13. Jade Eyed Angel - Through the Tears
14. Igo4mars - Camera Obscura (Chrno Crusade to Enigma's Camera Obscura)
15. Therax - All New for '72
16. JubJub2 - My Fair... Lady?
17. Sanada Usako - Love Remains
18. Manpurse - Asuka's Confession (I'm Not Wearing Any Underwear Today)
19. Kumagarou - Always
20. SSGWNBTD - Evangeliback Mountain (Neon Genesis Evangelion to the Brokeback Mountain trailer)
21. Jesse Gay - Elfen Leid to Evanescence's Taking Over Me
22. Grant Hicks - Pokemon X (Pokemon: Mewtwo Strikes Back to Drowning Pool's Bodies)
23. Asahikari Productions - Have this Heart to Break
24. Christopher Stadther - The Moment of Truth (Slayers to The Moment of Truth from the Karate Kid)
25. *Mr. Panda - Amv no Baka 2
26. Niotex - F.E.A.R.
27. Sombat - Advent Children Tribute (Advent Children to Stab Blue's Silver Wolf)
28 and 29 cut due to time and technical difficulties.

Sunday
1. *Nakagaki - Save Konoha's Rainforest (Naruto to the National Arbor Day PSA)
2. *Mr. Panda - Amv no Baka 2
3. *Mark Mucchetti - The Cat Who Won't Cop Out (My Neighbor Totoro to the theme from Shaft)
4. *Green Jinjo - Asuke is t3h Suck
5. Boyd Hale - Major Tom (The Wings of Honneamise to Peter Schilling's Major Tom)
6. Ruka Kekanna - Up
7. SSGWNBTD - Evangeliback Mountain (Neon Genesis Evangelion to the Brokeback Mountain trailer)
8. Xenon Studios - Dive Blue Sub (Blue Submarine #6 to The Boom Boom Satellite's Dive for You)
9. Shippochan - Full Metal Love
10. Bucky Durham - Iris (Final Fantasy IX to the Goo Goo Dolls's Iris)
11. Sanada Usako - Love Remains
12. Fuujin no Mai - Carols of Fantasy
13. JubJub2 - My Fair... Lady?
14. Looksfordanger - Hitomi Why!?
15. Lord Torron - Show Me How It Ends
16. Hunter MacDermut - We Ride Tonight (FLCL to Radiohead's You and Whose Army?)
17. Artikgato - The Days Worth Living
18. Tyson Lucas - The Rick (Robotech to Angie Aparo's Hush)
19. MC Headcase - The Dark Side of the Moon
20. KenshinTomoe225 - Pray for the Fireflies

Whew, that was a bit time consuming. Anyway, as you can see not all videos are up and online at the moment and there's no garantee they ever will be as this is a choice for the creators. I'm going to try to update this as they do, but if anyone sees a video up somewhere that I missed (as animemusicvideos.org can get messy), please post and I'll make an edit.
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