Blu-ray Disc are coming...

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Postby sigmatron » Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:39 am

Willen wrote:
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sigmatron wrote:A 250GB to 120GB hard drive is ~$80 to $120

10 of these is 250 it's smaller and safer to use.


Explain. For permanent back ups, using standard IDE drives seems silly. They're rather bulky, and quite heavy in comparison to discs or cards.

I think he means 10 Blu-ray discs (25GB each) would be equivalent to a 250GB HDD.

Although each one is smaller, all together 10 BDs would probably be about the same volume of a 3.5" HDD. And, since the BDs themselves do not have any moving parts and aren't affected by magnetic fields, they should be more reliable in the long run for storage (as long as you have a drive that can read them in the future). I'd just keep them out of the light and in a cool environment. At the moment though, 10 BD-R discs ($30 each X 10 = $300) are going to be more expensive than a 250GB HDD (~$120).



yes, yea at first they will $$$. but for BD-R useable the $$ is not know.
DVD were ~2 per disc and now $0.20.
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Postby Coderjoe » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:49 pm

sigmatron wrote:
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Kionon wrote:I'd rather pay twice as much as long as I'm guranteed I will not have BD disc just up and die one day.

But you aren't garanteed that. We're just now seeing the short life span of recordable CDs.


yes, but with CD's is a 100 year life span if you put it in a case and put
into a some with ~50 to 90%F.

some thing with DVD's.

Not really true. We have a spindle of CDs here at work that we can't really use anymore. They've been covered in the spindle case, in a 60 to 80 degress fahrenheit environment, out of sunlight. But when we try burning to them, we turn on data verification and the verification fails miserably.
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Postby Coderjoe » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:50 pm

sigmatron wrote:yes, yea at first they will $$$. but for BD-R useable the $$ is not know.
DVD were ~2 per disc and now $0.20.

And what is the quality of those $0.20 discs? Quality is still a bit more expensive, but even their prices have had to fall to be able to compete with the cheap crapola manufacturers out there.
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Postby sigmatron » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:30 pm

Coderjoe wrote:
sigmatron wrote:yes, yea at first they will $$$. but for BD-R useable the $$ is not know.
DVD were ~2 per disc and now $0.20.

And what is the quality of those $0.20 discs? Quality is still a bit more expensive, but even their prices have had to fall to be able to compete with the cheap crapola manufacturers out there.


now high quality like HP, Memorex, and Verbatim. most of them at 16X.

and the DVD burning drive's are cheaper now ~$40
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Postby sigmatron » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:58 pm

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Postby Coderjoe » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:05 pm

sigmatron wrote:
Coderjoe wrote:
sigmatron wrote:yes, yea at first they will $$$. but for BD-R useable the $$ is not know.
DVD were ~2 per disc and now $0.20.

And what is the quality of those $0.20 discs? Quality is still a bit more expensive, but even their prices have had to fall to be able to compete with the cheap crapola manufacturers out there.


now high quality like HP, Memorex, and Verbatim. most of them at 16X.

and the DVD burning drive's are cheaper now ~$40

Most brandnames don't really mean anything, since they buy manufacturing capacity from some other company the majority of the time. Give it a shot. take some of your discs and use a utility to find out what manufaturer is written onto the disc. With CDs, this information is stored in a read-only aread called the Absolute Time In Pre-gap (ATIP), which stores info, such as how long the CD is, what kind of dye it has, and who manufactured it. I'm sure recordable DVDs have a similar thing to communicate the dye and how long the disc is, and such.
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Postby Coderjoe » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:07 pm


I wouldn't bindly trust information from the companies behind a technology on a claim like that. I would rather see independant verification. Until then, this falls in the "marketing hype" category for me.
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Postby sigmatron » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:12 pm

Coderjoe wrote:

I wouldn't bindly trust information from the companies behind a technology on a claim like that. I would rather see independant verification. Until then, this falls in the "marketing hype" category for me.


that's a good point, but must of the time they tell at lest half-truth.
25GB is still 25GB!!
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hey

Postby amvwizard » Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:03 pm

dude thats fuckin crazy that might as well be a damn hard drive

lol what if they made them dual laye lol 25+25=50gb!!! i would fuckin kill me self if that happend....... 8-)
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Re: hey

Postby sigmatron » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:32 pm

amvwizard wrote:dude thats fuckin crazy that might as well be a damn hard drive

lol what if they made them dual laye lol 25+25=50gb!!! i would fuckin kill me self if that happend....... 8-)


they are planning to and 8 layers ~ about 200GB

but TB in CD size wow!!!.

i have a 10MB hard drive!!

at 2008 there will be the 1000GB (1TB) disc!!!
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Postby Ladymercury » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:13 pm

I still like my DVDs. Blue-ray is too much of a hassle considering I would probably have to re-buy all my series for Blue ray and that's just lame.

Ahahaha, let me stay in the DVD age a little while longer :P
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Postby CHAMELEON_D_H » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:06 pm

I dubt any new NON-HD relese will be done in BR. They won't put more episodes in, so why should they?
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Postby tyromaniac » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:50 pm

Isn't there already a terabyte on the new Dell XPS? I saw it on a commercial a while back. you have to go full upgrade though if you want it. I didn't check specifics, but it may have been a combination of harddrives to create a terabyte...
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Postby Perfect Chaos » Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:18 am

Yeah, the Dell XPS looks pretty nice wih all that memory, but the lastest Alienware laptops would still be a better investment.

External Hard Drives will always be more reliable than those Blue Ray Disks. There are so many more pros than cons in comparison.
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Postby sigmatron » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:22 pm

Perfect Chaos wrote:Yeah, the Dell XPS looks pretty nice wih all that memory, but the lastest Alienware laptops would still be a better investment.

External Hard Drives will always be more reliable than those Blue Ray Disks. There are so many more pros than cons in comparison.


the part about "External Hard Drives will always be more reliable than those Blue Ray Disks."

1.Hard Drives have a 100% of braking, it's only a mater of time!

2.External Hard Drives are External wich means you can drop it, loose it, and
so on....

3.Blue Ray Disks is said will be very scratch resistant and about the some
size of a Hard Drive and faster then a Hard Drive and safer.
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