Gundam Seed

This section is for the rational discussion of anime on a series basis. Spoilers should be expected, but please be courteous to your fellow users.

Postby older_gohan » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:25 pm

First off, Macross was 1982. The second thing to remember is that most of the things the characters are talking about are ideas which were first presented in Mobile Suit Gundam. Like I said before, major plot ideas, characters, and even dialouge was formed from mobile suit gundam. Everything is based around that. Mobile Suit Gundam is the original in any gundam series idea you will see. The dialouge is virtually the same (Except of course you have to change things for the sake of different sides and characters).

Your still failing to understand that mobile suit gundam is the original idea behind all of these animes. Without mobile suit gundam you wouldn't have at least half the plot that it displays. You wouldn't have half the character conflicts that take place. Seed has not displayed anything extra ordinary that Mobile Suit Gundam or 08th hasn't presented before. It only took it and twisted it to fit the series.

Also here's the years the earlier series were created.

1979-1980 Mobile Suit Gundam
1985-1986 Gundam Zeta
1986-1987 ZZ
1988 Char's Counterattack
1989 Gundam 0080 (Big jump in years)
1991 Gundam 0083 (Explains why the animation is similar)
1991 Gundam F-91
1993-1994 Victory Gundam
1994-1995 G Gundam
1995-1996 Gundam Wing
1996 Gundam X
1996 08th MS Team
1999 Turn A Gundam
2003-2003 Gundam Seed
2004 Gundam Seed Destiny

There's your time line for the gundam series. You can see where the animation fits in with the timeline itself.
User avatar
older_gohan
 
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
Location: With my girl friend, making out.

Postby Mroni » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:29 am

The thing i'm amazed im wrong on is macross I thought that was 78. I still dont believe you about the plot ideas being stolen. Do you mean between all the gundam series there are some plot similarities? That always happens colony drops etc. The way the characters and emotions are handled in seed is alot more realistic than in any previous gundam than say wing.

Mr Oni
User avatar
Mroni
 
Joined: 14 Aug 2001
Location: Heading for the 90s living in the 80s sitting in a back room waiting for the big boom

Postby older_gohan » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:17 am

Don't worry about being wrong with Macross. I have a slight obssession with the anime. I have every concievable OVA and series associated with macross. Not to mention I normally participate in Macross RP's and such, I have started a few fan clubs. Eh it's pitiful.

Honestly most of the plot and dialouge does come from Mobile suit gundam. Although each series will have a unique twist to it at one point. Some will throw a new light on it. I have to admitt Seed threw out a few new lights on the old ideas making for some rather impressive plot lines that developed. I'm not saying Seed was horrible. Wing was horrible, also G Gundam was a travesty as well. I'm just saying with the U.C. series that all have very similar ideas behind them. Each series has their own little quirks to them. Seed had the most unique out of any of the series.

I liked Seed, the characters were very unlikeable to me though.

Yes the emotion in Wing was like watching five year olds perform shakespere.
User avatar
older_gohan
 
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
Location: With my girl friend, making out.

Postby Mroni » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:24 pm

And we learned from this that we like what we like. I personally want the next gundam series to have 8 year old girls as the pilots.


Mr Oni
Purity is wackable!
"Don't trust me I'm over 30!"
User avatar
Mroni
 
Joined: 14 Aug 2001
Location: Heading for the 90s living in the 80s sitting in a back room waiting for the big boom

Postby older_gohan » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:38 pm

Lmao, that's mean. I would like to see it like a normal war one. With main characterrs actually dieing on a regular basis. You know, like war really is.
User avatar
older_gohan
 
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
Location: With my girl friend, making out.

Postby Heero_Yuy84 » Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:38 am

Mroni wrote:And we learned from this that we like what we like. I personally want the next gundam series to have 8 year old girls as the pilots.


Mr Oni


...ironically, UC DOES have a story that you'd want then...

(Ecole du Ciel manga...what Mikimoto's been doing with his time lately.)
Image
*Resident shameless Gundam fanboy*
User avatar
Heero_Yuy84
 
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Location: Fiery Pits of Hell, USA

Postby older_gohan » Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:21 am

Doesn't 0083 have a young boy as a pilot? I he's like ten or so in it.
User avatar
older_gohan
 
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
Location: With my girl friend, making out.

Postby Heero_Yuy84 » Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:43 pm

While he acted like he was 10 years old on MORE than enough occasions, Kou's actually 21, I think.
Image
*Resident shameless Gundam fanboy*
User avatar
Heero_Yuy84
 
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Location: Fiery Pits of Hell, USA

Postby Heero_Yuy84 » Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:50 pm

Just realized...the pilot you might have heard about would be... ...damn, how old was he (I want to say MAYBE 12) ...anyways...Usso Ebbing from V Gundam currently takes the prize as youngest Gundam pilot in animation...although tech not youngest pilot in a mecha anime.

Right now, Ideon kind of takes the prize there (basically the system the Ideon works with functions better with younger pilots...to the point that they have a baby filling one of the control seats.)
Image
*Resident shameless Gundam fanboy*
User avatar
Heero_Yuy84
 
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Location: Fiery Pits of Hell, USA

Postby Mroni » Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:04 pm

Who cares about young boys I'm not a pervert I want cute little girls to pilot gundams with names like Ragnarok and Malice and Despair.


Mr Oni
Purity is wackable!
"Don't trust me I'm over 30!"
User avatar
Mroni
 
Joined: 14 Aug 2001
Location: Heading for the 90s living in the 80s sitting in a back room waiting for the big boom

Postby Heero_Yuy84 » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:48 am

Mroni wrote:Who cares about young boys I'm not a pervert I want cute little girls to pilot gundams with names like Ragnarok and Malice and Despair.


Mr Oni


Again, if cute little girls are THAT much of a must for you, UC has what you want...cart yourself to a bookstore and look for the Ecole du Ciel manga.

Problem solved, next!
Image
*Resident shameless Gundam fanboy*
User avatar
Heero_Yuy84
 
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Location: Fiery Pits of Hell, USA

Postby Mroni » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:02 pm

A 15 year old girl is in no way an 8 year old girl problem not solved.


Mr Oni
Purity is wackable!
"Don't trust me I'm over 30!"
User avatar
Mroni
 
Joined: 14 Aug 2001
Location: Heading for the 90s living in the 80s sitting in a back room waiting for the big boom

Postby Mroni » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:37 pm

I am a loliphile dammit get it right. Anyway are there any rumours of a next season my brother is susposedly download an alternate ending.


Mr Oni
Purity is wackable!
"Don't trust me I'm over 30!"
User avatar
Mroni
 
Joined: 14 Aug 2001
Location: Heading for the 90s living in the 80s sitting in a back room waiting for the big boom

Postby jethropr » Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:49 am

If your talking about Seed oni, then what your brother probably downloaded the "Between the Stars" OVA which is a 15 minute ova of Kirra and Athrun after the final battle.
User avatar
jethropr
 
Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Oshawa, Ont

Postby Mroni » Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:35 pm

Woah no I didn't know about that I need to look for that now are you talking about after seed or seed destiny? No what was downloaded turned out to be the ending of destiny in spanish.


Mr Oni
Purity is wackable!
"Don't trust me I'm over 30!"
User avatar
Mroni
 
Joined: 14 Aug 2001
Location: Heading for the 90s living in the 80s sitting in a back room waiting for the big boom

PreviousNext

Return to Anime Series Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests