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Postby KaneDragon » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:59 pm

And now I'm reading the manga (I'm up to Volume 13)... Many scenes in the anime are much shorter/simpler in the manga. No one accidentally transforms when Tohru's friends come to visit, for instance. The event that ends the anime is so much less climatic in the manga, as has already been discussed...

The manga has some very good parts to it, like Hatori and Mayu's meeting and Kyo and Kagura's date in volume 12. Any parts involving the new student council are REALLY annoying, though. :evil: :evil:

Akito's true identity as revealed in Volume 11 is way cooler than at the end of the anime :twisted: ... but no manical laughter? :?
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Postby Souless Hunter » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:49 pm

Ummm... question? There has been a rumor going around the anime/ manga fans at my school...
Spoiler wrote:And it is that Akito is a woman...
I have no idea if this is true or not... Some one please tell me!

[paizuri: Spoiler tags added.]
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Postby Solaria735 » Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:25 pm

First of all, you should really put a spoiler tag on that, because some people will view the fact that there is such a rumor to possibly hint at a certain spoiler. Gah... I hope that made sense.

But,
Spoiler wrote:Yes, Akito is really a woman.
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Postby Tainted_Eden » Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:42 pm

Solaria735 wrote:First of all, you should really put a spoiler tag on that, because some people will view the fact that there is such a rumor to possibly hint at a certain spoiler. Gah... I hope that made sense.

But,
Spoiler wrote:Yes, Akito is really a woman.


Speaking of which.... I was watching On Demand the other night, and they did a review on Anime Expo. They freakin' SPOILED the secret! They were all 'Who's the worst bad guy?' And they let some chick come on air and say
She said... wrote:Yeah, Akito is pretty bad ass... And Akito is actually a girl, but still. She's really evil.
Or something to that affect.

oO; WTF Anime Network? Or was it G4?
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Postby KaneDragon » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:50 pm

Spoiler wrote:I could have sworn the manga had referred to Akito has a "he"! :? Now I've gone and spoiled to myself this big secret... I've only read up to volume 13 or so. Meh.

Now, I have a question about Kyo's transforming:
End of anime/Vol 12 Spoiler wrote:What conditions cause Kyo to transform into his "true self"? When Tohru finds out, it's raining, and since Kyo weakens during rainy days, I thought that if Kyo removed his bracelet while out in the rain, then he would transform, ala Ramma 1/2. But in the Vol 12 flashback, when Kagura removed his bracelet, he instantly transformed, and it was a sunny day. I'm confused with regards to why he didn't become a monster all those other times when he reverted back to human from cat form... Am I trying to analyze this too much?

But I don't want to spoil anything that happens later!
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Postby Solaria735 » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:44 pm

Spoiler regarding Akito wrote:They do refer to Akito often as a "he" in the manga; however, this is because most of the family doesn't know Akito's a woman, and the few who do (Shigure, Hatori, Ayame, Kureno, and possibly Ritsu, since they're all older than Akito) are keeping it a secret.


Spoiler regarding Kyo wrote:As for Kyo, he reverts into his true form whenever the bracelet is taken off, regardless of the weather. Apparently, this doesn't happen in the short time after Kyo transforms from cat to human, before he can get the bracelet back on. Whether this is because Natsuki Takaya intended it that way or if it's just a continuity error is unclear.
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Postby Souless Hunter » Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:44 pm

Yeah, thanks for clearing it up... Iam sorry about the spoiler thing... I dont really know how to put one up...
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Postby Tainted_Eden » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:35 am

Heh, it's alright. You're a noob. *pets*

Mrow, continueing with the spoiler discussion by the way...

Akito MAJOR spoilerage wrote:Kureno is the rooster, right? And he's Akito's bitch.... Why doesn't he transform when they have intercourse? I think they have intercourse, I'm not too sure. =__= I only got up to vol. something or another, but uwaaah!! Kureno is so completely awesome, would've NEVER guessed him to be the rooster.

Ach ja, I also wanna say Solaria!! *glomp* I've missededed you. ^.^ Always when I go into a thread, you're not far behind, discussing wonderful discussions.
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Postby Solaria735 » Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:21 pm

Spoiler revolving around several events mostly involving Akito, but also Kureno, Shigure, Haru, Rin/Isuzu, and Ren wrote:Kureno and Akito do have sex (so do Akito and Shigure), but he doesn't transform because Akito is also part of the zodiac. (Kureno = rooster, Akito = god) Remember, the male zodiac members can hug Kagura and Kisa without transforming- it's the same with Akito. Plus, Akito's always hanging on one of the guys. For the same reason, Haru and Rin/Isuzu were able to have sex too.

I want to know how Shigure didn't transform when he slept with Ren...


*is glomped by Tainted_Eden* I guess we have similar tastes in discussion threads. ^-^
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Postby KaneDragon » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:52 pm

Where exactly are those spoilers coming from? I don't know if I can safely read them or not (I just read the last chapter I have, v17 c98)...

I wish I could read Japanese just so I could skip to the raws... :cry:
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Postby Solaria735 » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:25 pm

Mine are all coming from scans (since only up to v. 11 is available in the US right now), but a few of the spoilers I posted I think are from above volume 17... Some of them are from chapters 104-105 for sure, so you might not want to read them yet.
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Postby Tainted_Eden » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:29 pm

Mine are coming from here. >>

Spoilerageness wrote:Since each of the members of the zodiac can hug each other. I remember Kagura going 'Oh Kyo-kun! It'll be okay since we're both from the zodiac!!'

I think the hugging thing only applies to those outside of the zodiac. And cool, I never even thought of god, so I guess Akito can be a slut and sleep with whoever... I wonder if she does it with Hatori. Poor guy, he really doens't like her. *read FB 8 at K-mart*


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Postby Solaria735 » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:20 am

Spoiler wrote:Akito could be a slut, and does intend to keep all the zodiac men to herself, but so far, she's only slept with Kureno (who was trying to comfort her after another spoileriffic event) and Shigure.

The hugging thing only applies to those outside of the zodiac, explaining why Akito/Kureno, Akito/Shigure, Kagura/Kyo, and Haru/Rin can all exist. Like I said, I have no idea how Shigure and Ren slept together, but I guess Ren just didn't touch his torso or something...
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Postby Tainted_Eden » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:08 am

Ooooh! I get it wrote:Oh!! I thought you typoed Rin as Ren. Ren's that chick, right? >> *coughs*

Poor Kureno. I really wanna learn more about him, he seems quite the depressed type. Which is my favorite, ahaha!! So I take it you've read the entire series?

Anyway, that's kinda weird that they only transform with just their torsos. >> 'Cause there's defintely more than one way to have sex. I wonder why the manga-ka decided to do that....
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Postby Solaria735 » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:38 pm

Well, I don't know for sure if they only transform with their torsos... I can't recall seeing anyone glomp their legs or anything, so who knows if that would make them transform. But it does seem that even when Kyo or Yuki stand close to Tohru, they make sure not to touch torsos together.
Spoiler concerning REN wrote:Yeah, I did mean Ren. Akito's mom. Not Rin/Isuzu. :-P


And no, I haven't read the entire series, just all of the English, a bit of the French since there are more French volumes released, and a bunch of major spoiler summaries/scans on various Fruits Basket sites for up to volume 17-18.
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