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Postby lenu » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:23 pm

OK, I thought of another peeve of mine, I'm not sure if someone else mentioned this earlier, but anyway. Little or no information in the video discription. I mean, I'd like to know what the video's supposed to be about, why was it made, what makes this one different from another video that uses the same anime and same music, etc... This can add just a little more incentive for me to download it.
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Postby requiett » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:34 pm

I'd also say people who bash a video with lots of added FX, even when they're done well and add novelty to the video (as long as it's not fucking repetative ala NTB).
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Postby Clip » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:52 pm

lenu wrote:OK, I thought of another peeve of mine, I'm not sure if someone else mentioned this earlier, but anyway. Little or no information in the video discription. I mean, I'd like to know what the video's supposed to be about, why was it made, what makes this one different from another video that uses the same anime and same music, etc... This can add just a little more incentive for me to download it.


I totally agree. if you want people to watch your vid, spend 2 minutes and write a discription.

Some of my peeves:

-Subtitles
-stealing footage from other vids
-vids that are compressed so much that it is imposible to watch. (a 4 min vid that is less than 2MB)
-Random vids that look like someone just look a bunch of unrelated shots and threw them together in 10 min.
-People being proud of spending 5 hours making a vid. If I added up all the time I waited for various versions my vid to render, it would be more than 5 hours.
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Postby Kristyrat » Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:39 pm

requiett wrote:I'd also say people who bash a video with lots of added FX, even when they're done well and add novelty to the video (as long as it's not fucking repetative ala NTB).


I dunno about repetitiveness being a fault in effects, in my opinion, I think it's best to stick with a couple that work with the video idea, rather than throwing in all kinds of different effects that can have no relevance at all. Though I'd much rather not start a debate on if effects can actually help a video this way or not, I think NTB used effects (albeit many effects) in a way that did benefit the overall theme/idea of the video.

Bah, and I never wanted to find myself posting here, my pet peeve? I guess its obvious now, but too many different effects at seemingly random times, and sometimes just for beat sync purposes (and I will freely admit I have done this many times in the past :/ )

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Postby Clip » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:27 pm

-People leaving reviews saying 'this is the best vid ever' even though the vid is quite bad.
-or on the same note giving all tens and not providing anything constructive.
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Postby Knowname » Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:09 am

Clip wrote:-if you want people to watch your vid, spend 2 minutes and write a discription.
-Subtitles
-stealing footage from other vids
-vids that are compressed so much that it is imposible to watch. (a 4 min vid that is less than 2MB)
-Random vids that look like someone just look a bunch of unrelated shots and threw them together in 10 min.
-People being proud of spending 5 hours making a vid. If I added up all the time I waited for various versions my vid to render, it would be more than 5 hours.


-Here's my view on that, THAT'S WHAT THE VIDEO'S FOR!! I'm here to perfect my work not to show other ppl what I want them to see. I don't mind if I get bad reviews, as long as they have a valid point, I WANT to know what they saw, what THEY think of my video.
-Subtitles are just like sound effects if used right... but it is true that subs used wrong are VERY annoying. Especially with fades and transitions -uhk..
-I have an 80s vid I put at a very low bitrate... but see, it doesn't matter ;p it's an 80s vid, it looks bad either way, trust me -_- also not everybody has broadband, there ARE ppl in third world countrys and the ghettos that frequent this site
-gotta agree, 5 hours is short no matter how you look at it lol.
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Postby x_rex30 » Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:48 am

requiett wrote:I'd also say people who bash a video with lots of added FX, even when they're done well and add novelty to the video (as long as it's not fucking repetative ala NTB).
Most of the people that I know that bitch about them are people that can't do them very well. I think that's why a lot of them bitch. Though at times I think some videos with effects just scream out "Hey look, I can do effects!!".
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Postby lenu » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:23 pm

Knowname wrote:
Clip wrote:-if you want people to watch your vid, spend 2 minutes and write a discription.


-Here's my view on that, THAT'S WHAT THE VIDEO'S FOR!! I'm here to perfect my work not to show other ppl what I want them to see. I don't mind if I get bad reviews, as long as they have a valid point, I WANT to know what they saw, what THEY think of my video.


Yes, but by telling others what you were trying to accomplish with the video in the description, you should get better responses. Because then they know what to look for, and then are better able to judge if the video did a good job or a bad job at accomplishing what you set out to do.
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Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:38 pm

lenu wrote:
Knowname wrote:
Clip wrote:-if you want people to watch your vid, spend 2 minutes and write a discription.


-Here's my view on that, THAT'S WHAT THE VIDEO'S FOR!! I'm here to perfect my work not to show other ppl what I want them to see. I don't mind if I get bad reviews, as long as they have a valid point, I WANT to know what they saw, what THEY think of my video.


Yes, but by telling others what you were trying to accomplish with the video in the description, you should get better responses. Because then they know what to look for, and then are better able to judge if the video did a good job or a bad job at accomplishing what you set out to do.


With something like that, though, shouldn't you say "I'm trying to convey a story, but watch my video first. Then, if you're curious, read my description and I'll explain what it was about. If not, that's okay." Of course, that's simplistic, but you could word it differently. Get my drift? Just section off the "here's the plot" part, and tell them they can skip it if they don't care. That's what I plan to do with my next few videos.


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Postby Clip » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:00 pm

Knowname wrote:
Clip wrote:-if you want people to watch your vid, spend 2 minutes and write a discription.
-Subtitles
-stealing footage from other vids
-vids that are compressed so much that it is imposible to watch. (a 4 min vid that is less than 2MB)
-Random vids that look like someone just look a bunch of unrelated shots and threw them together in 10 min.
-People being proud of spending 5 hours making a vid. If I added up all the time I waited for various versions my vid to render, it would be more than 5 hours.


-Here's my view on that, THAT'S WHAT THE VIDEO'S FOR!! I'm here to perfect my work not to show other ppl what I want them to see. I don't mind if I get bad reviews, as long as they have a valid point, I WANT to know what they saw, what THEY think of my video.

It's just a matter of how you want the viewer to see you. I feel that not writing anything on the vid info page is the ultimate sign of either lazyness or apathy. If you can't take a few minutes (or a few seconds) to comment on your vid, why should anyone take the time to download it.

You put a vid up, you want people to download it, why would you act like you couldn't care less about your work, your own creation.
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Postby lenu » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:08 pm

dj_ultima_the_great wrote:With something like that, though, shouldn't you say "I'm trying to convey a story, but watch my video first. Then, if you're curious, read my description and I'll explain what it was about. If not, that's okay." Of course, that's simplistic, but you could word it differently. Get my drift? Just section off the "here's the plot" part, and tell them they can skip it if they don't care. That's what I plan to do with my next few videos.


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For a video that's trying to convey a story, then yes you should do what you said. But that wasn't quite what I was trying to say.

An example of what I was trying to say would be: Say you make a serious drama video, in the description you could say what you did to make it that way; whether it was focusing on a specific character, a plot twisting event, or whatever. Now I know what your intentions were so after I watch the video, I can go back and judge if the video did a good or bad job of accomplishing what you said in the description. This makes it easier to formulate a good opinion and gives you, the video creator, better feedback.
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Postby godix » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:09 pm

lenu wrote:An example of what I was trying to say would be: Say you make a serious drama video, in the description you could say what you did to make it that way; whether it was focusing on a specific character, a plot twisting event, or whatever. Now I know what your intentions were so after I watch the video, I can go back and judge if the video did a good or bad job of accomplishing what you said in the description. This makes it easier to formulate a good opinion and gives you, the video creator, better feedback.


If you watch a drama video and you can't tell what the intention was then that video failed to convey it's story. It doesn't matter if there's a 50 page thesis explaining things in the description, if the videos story doesn't come through on it's own it failed. So don't judge a vid off the fact the creator let the video speak for itself and don't formulate a 'good opinion' of the video based on the description. An opinin on the video should be based on the video itself rather than some text that the majority of people who watch the thing will never read. When I was dishing out ops I frequently wouldn't read the description until after I wrote the op for this exact reason.

An alternate way to think of it, if you watch a comedy video and it was so boring and unfunny that you almost fell asleep would a hysterial description make the video itself anymore funny?
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Postby lenu » Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:06 pm

godix wrote:So don't judge a vid off the fact the creator let the video speak for itself and don't formulate a 'good opinion' of the video based on the description. An opinin on the video should be based on the video itself rather than some text that the majority of people who watch the thing will never read.


Did you read my whole post? I said that after I watch the video I can go back and compare it to the video discription. OK, so maybe I should've used "Better opinion" rather than "good opinion." But I don't formulate an opinion of the vid based on the discription.

godix wrote:An alternate way to think of it, if you watch a comedy video and it was so boring and unfunny that you almost fell asleep would a hysterial description make the video itself anymore funny?


Of course not, but if the discription says it's supposed to be funny and the video itself is not, then I know the video failed to accomplish what the creator intended. Yes, it's possible to infer that based on the video alone, but not in all cases.

My point is, the video discription is there for a reason, and people should take advantage of it. I don't have time to download and watch every single video, so the discription should tell me why I should dowload it; what distinguishes this video from the next; what's the video about; etc...
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Postby Knowname » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:46 pm

you judge it by not downloading it in the first place. 'I won't d/l a video if the creator won't bother writing anything about it' <--- the initial judgement. Anyway I'm not condemning I'm just saying 'some of us have our reasons ;p' but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to at least put the generic 'please leave your truethfull opinion on my video! I love opinions!'
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Postby BCplayer » Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:28 pm

I have no problem with subtitles as long as they go along with the video and not just there because thats where the clip was randomly placed. For example in my latest video, at one point the sub is "they're coming to steal the rice soon" which, if you've seen samurai 7, explains why the villagers are fighting the nobuseri.
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