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Postby DinaDani » Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:35 pm

Otohiko wrote:
dj_ultima_the_great wrote:
Most hobbies don't cost several hundred dollars initially. :|


Well, what's "most hobbies"?

I can safely say that most serious hobbies I know of cost more than that. I mean heck. I've spent several thousand dollars on building a computer and buying all sorts of accessories just for my games.

Heh. :roll:


True, but a pc is much more versatile. Then again, DVD's are too. Ah well, if the topicstarter don't want to invest at least some money at some point in our hobby, he shouldn't be in the first place.
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Postby Otohiko » Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:38 pm

Yea, that's what I mean.

(but actually, I'll be the first to admit this: buying a computer as an academic-/employment-/video-editing-related tool for me was hardly more than an excuse. I dislike working with computers and never had the intention of using one for anything besides games and the internet...

...I failed :roll: )

As for the downloaded footage, DVD's and so on - just remember the implications of it all. If you want to download/steal stuff - do so at your own risk, and don't get anyone else involved. And don't talk about it on the .org.
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Postby downwithpants » Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:00 pm

erg ok, i'm noticing a difference in my opinions with the rest of the site.

it's OK to create an AMV with downloaded footage. the sky won't fall, you won't get genital warts, and the world won't stop spinning. note that, to reduce freezing your video editing software, you should recompress your downloaded footage with an intraframe compressed codec, such as huffyuv or mjpeg, or decompress the footage altogether.

that said, the people who work at animemusicvideos.org do hope you continue purchasing anime DVD and paraphenalia (wrong word... w/e) and not curtail such purchasing habits because of downloading anime. furthermore, do not expect to get links or post links to downloadable footage on the forums. also, you may not upload amvs with licensed downloaded video footage to the site server.

using dvd source will get you better looking footage, better opinion scores, and more respect from other editors. however, if you are just fooling around or making a video for yourself, it is your decision as to whether you will downloaded footage, dvd footage, or whatever other source footage you may want.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:22 pm

So.. to recap.. "the first rule about using downloaded footage is don't talk about using downloaded footage!"
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Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:56 pm

Otohiko wrote:
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Most hobbies don't cost several hundred dollars initially. :|


Well, what's "most hobbies"?

I can safely say that most serious hobbies I know of cost more than that. I mean heck. I've spent several thousand dollars on building a computer and buying all sorts of accessories just for my games.

Heh. :roll:


Initially was the key word there. Reading manga is a hobby. On X/1999 alone, I've spent 180 dollars. However, each book is ten apiece. So, I don't spend all that money at once. For making AMVs, if you want to do it the "right" way, then you're going to want to purchase all of the required parts relatively around the same time - either that, or wait a long time to make your first music video... Most people don't have that money all at once. That's the point I was trying to make, and I do apologize if it didn't quite come out correct.
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Postby Otohiko » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:07 pm

Well actually, my point does counter that quite effectively. A good up-to-date computer, if like me you see it as a hobby tool first and foremost, runs you a couple of thousand bucks. And if your hobby is cars or... planes... you know... :roll:

Don't worry though. It's all just for the sake of healthy argument. :)

And I sympathise with the sentiment somewhat, too. I mean... guess who is too broke to buy anything including DVD's right now (and for the whole past year)?
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Postby Kalium » Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:05 pm

khokokatt wrote:Umm... not to everybody :?

Alot of people have a hard time understanding the quides. I don't think it has much to do with patience. Maybe how smart you are... but...

Then you ask questions, try to figure things out. You don't just give up, going "THIS JOB IS TOO HARD". You buckle down and work at it, or you ask for help. Giving up gets you a guaranteed ticket to nowhere. Illumination does't generally come out of the sky and enlighten you on the subject of what, exactly, an I-frame is (the nature of God may or may not be a different story, but that's not my field).

On the subject of cost: where I am, I can rent a DVD for $1.50 a day. Pocket change, literally. Or, I can hit my local library, and get both DVDs and CDs for free. That's right, free. Failing that, I can borrow from my friends (some of whom have extensive libraries). Then, I can use software that can either be purchased cheaply (my program of choice cost me $20, and it's all legal), or had legally for free (read).

Get a library card. They're great. Oh, and ask a few questions. They're great too, as long as you remember how to ask smart questions and be polite about it.
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Postby aoi_neko » Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:45 pm

Hmm, no s/he can't make a high quality video using D/L'ed footage. But if a beginner -- who comes right out and SAYS they simply don't understand the guides wants to play around and start getting familiar with the concepts they could do worse -- because if they start off with D/L'ed .avis it cust a whole lot of steps out of the process. Now, Scintilla, ripping the .vobs w/ decrypter, dgindexing them, deinterlacing, changing the frame rate, resizing and cutting obviously isn't a big deal to YOU. Nor to anyone else who's done it a few times. But I can see how a new editor can be a little put off by sentences like "Some anime have a digitally edited opening sequence which is pure interlaced and then use a regular Telecine pattern during the episode itself. X TV and Azumanga Daioh both use this particular method."

So, there's value, I think, in saying "Play with this. It'll look like hell, but it's the fastest way to get your feet wet."

Of course *ahem* this presumes you have downloaded footage from somewhere. Let us say that the first lesson is "Well, since you have it, play with with it, but thanks to a-m-v.org, now you know better than to induldge in such evil in the future."

Lesson two is maybe "Don't get attached to it while you're playing with it. Before too very long, you too will cringe at the visible subtitles and low-bitrate .mp3 sound."

In more general terms, Gilmorefan, are there *specific* things in the guides that confuse you, or is it really ALL gibberish to you at this point?
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Postby khokokatt » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:19 am

Kalium wrote:
khokokatt wrote:Umm... not to everybody :?

Alot of people have a hard time understanding the quides. I don't think it has much to do with patience. Maybe how smart you are... but...

Then you ask questions, try to figure things out. You don't just give up, going "THIS JOB IS TOO HARD". You buckle down and work at it, or you ask for help. Giving up gets you a guaranteed ticket to nowhere. Illumination does't generally come out of the sky and enlighten you on the subject of what, exactly, an I-frame is (the nature of God may or may not be a different story, but that's not my field).


Yes, you're right. I didn't make it clear in my past posts- so I'm sorry about that. But now I do understand the quides. But when I first read them I was EXTREMELY confused. So what I guess I meant was I understand the people who don't understand them.
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