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Postby Otohiko » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:40 am

Kalium wrote:Ogg

I can do deeper, it just takes a bit of effort.


Alright. I think the possible advantage is that you have no accent to contend with :)

Hmm, perhaps we can have a vote on this too or something.
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Postby ooshna » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:07 am

Getting a higher quality song will be impossible for two reasons the first is that I do not have the cd to rip the song from and second i edited the song down a bit and probably would never be able to recreate it just right.
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Postby Otohiko » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:11 am

ahh, I see...

Well re-editing it down might be possible, unless it's really re-mixed in some tricky fashion, but the source is the bigger concern of course.
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Postby ooshna » Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:58 pm

Ok I went out and bought the Third Eye Open CD and I will rip it with the highest quality i can and then will try to edit it to what I used for the video. Also will going from mp3 to wav to mp3 even at the highest quality hurt the final file?
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Postby Bakadeshi » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:38 pm

ooshna wrote:Ok I went out and bought the Third Eye Open CD and I will rip it with the highest quality i can and then will try to edit it to what I used for the video. Also will going from mp3 to wav to mp3 even at the highest quality hurt the final file?


It will to a degree, you can minimize the hurt by using a high bitrate on the mp3, but its much better to forgo the mp3 all together and edit it in wav only if at all possible.
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Postby Songbird21 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:40 pm

Bakadeshi wrote:its much better to forgo the mp3 all together and edit it in wav only if at all possible.
Yeah. Not to mention that Premiere and Mp3s don't get along.
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Postby Maverick-Rubik » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:41 pm

why don't you reapply the original .wav after editing?
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Postby downwithpants » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:50 pm

otohiko has the accent going for him, but kalium clearer pronunciation... at least in these recordings. kalium gmv.
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Postby jasper-isis » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:55 pm

Hooray, time for clarifications and stuff.

NEW VIDEO GUIDELINES (Aimed mostly at potential new editors.)

- It must use fullscreen footage.
- It must have instrumental music.
- This is not limited to current project members.
[EDIT: forgot about this one before] - With VERY few exceptions, it must be a new, unreleased video.

(Obviously, that was the easy part.)

- The project is titled "Animasia." Don't forget about the whole "Fantasia" aspect.

- Contribution to this project does not end with a video. You must write a commentary piece to go with your segment. You must be okay with revealing your full name and possibly a photograph of yourself for the credits. If there are any betas out, you are highly encouraged (if not expected, by me) to comment on them.

- You must take a serious approach to this project. This is not a MEP bandwagon that anybody can jump on. The video must be well thought-out and executed. After all, it's getting the so-called VIP treatment, with commentaries and painstakingly recorded voice-overs, and wrapped up in an elegant theme. You, and the rest of us, should feel that your video is WORTH all of that.

- The deadline is August 23. I'd prefer to have them all in by Otakon. (August 19.) There is little room for flexibility, so I am not going to discuss that at this time. Please be serious about this, guys. Despite all the previous interest, nobody had mentioned anything to me on July 23. :neutral:

- Your finished video will be voted upon by the current project members. When you've finalized your video, drop me a note and I'll tell you where to upload it on Kalium's server. The rest of us will take care of the voting.

- If your video is accepted, you must be able to get the other components to me ASAP.
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VOTING GUIDELINES (Current project members, pay attention to this.)

- All new videos will be subject to voting. That includes mine and those coming from other current project members.

- All current project editors are eligible for voting. This includes downwithpants, ooshna, songbird, bakadeshi, otohiko, rose4emily, pen-pen, anubisx00, chris nguyen, and me.

- Voting will be blind. Kalium will collect and tally our votes. Once you've watched the final video, PM him with your decisions, under an appropriate subject title.

- Majority rules, but there must be at least 3 yes's for a video to be accepted. We've got plenty of eligible voters. I do NOT want to hear about a 2:1 decision where only three votes were cast total.

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I think that's all.

Next up: stuff about the commentary voice-overs...
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Postby ooshna » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:28 pm

ok i guess I will not be able to do my plan with using entirely images for my videos seeing as premiere can't handle the 60,000+(after cuting out all the odd numbered images) pictures so I will have to try a new aproach. As for the music for Simplicity I can do a wav and use only a wav it will just take a long time to upload.
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Postby jasper-isis » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:01 pm

Now, a few suggestions on those commentaries.

Disclaimer: I don't know much about voice acting/recording other than the fact that it's harder than it sounds. Hopefully these will be helpful...

1. Don't narrate. Converse. Pretend you're talking to somebody who is listening attentively. Think of radio disc jockeys, who have to talk in a one-sided conversation all day long. They do their job well with the knowledge that they've got an audience on the other side of the wavelength. (I think. :P)

2. Get comfortable, because a comfortable voice is exactly what I'd like to hear. After all, the guy is sitting there in his favorite armchair, having a smoke with his favorite pipe. :P If it helps, try putting yourself in the same surroundings. The widescreen commentaries (will, should, etc.) have a tone that is very different from the fullscreen ones. Whereas Songbird's precise yet still expressive voice was perfect for the fullscreen "stage presentation" set, the widescreen set needs something smoother and more relaxed.

3. Feel free to make minor changes in word choice to make the passages more accessible to speech. I'm actually going to go back and revise some of these... I think... with permission... ?

4. Record each commentary in segments, or pause a bit between paragraphs. That's what Songbird did for her recordings. It gives you a chance to keep all the parts that you don't mess up on, and do multiple takes on only what is necessary. Run them all together when you're done though, to make sure there isn't a major difference in tone or something.


If anybody else has suggestions, feel free to post them.
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Postby jasper-isis » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:24 pm

Ooshna: Thanks for getting the CD so you can give me a nice WAV file! :D

And... your original idea sounded intriguing. But do you really need that many still images for it? I mean, most of them are going to be repeats of each other...


Tsunami Jones should be posting in here soon...

I decided to reverse my earlier decision and welcome his video for voting. I had originally turned it down because it had been released for a while. But poking around the site and the forums, it seems that the video hasn't received any full-blown attention anyway. And in all fairness, he had originally made it for the now-defunct Second Instrumentality project, heh.

(This is a case of the very few exceptions that I mentioned earlier.)


In other news... I have encoded most of the videos to Lagarith yv12, with filtering if needed. I've made sure that they can be joined without any problems.
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Postby pen-pen2002 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:13 pm

Kalium, any chance I could borrow a mic to give it a go? I used to be an actor but I don't have any recording equitment.

I'm planning a second offering for animasia. I was thinking Apocolyptica (Fade to black or nothing else matters) but that will have to wait for later as I've decided to pull out a song I've been saving for a long time untill I felt ready to tackle it:

Eloiis an inspiring tribal choral melody that sends shivers down my spine every time I hear it. Give it a listen and tell me what you think.

ooshna wrote:ok i guess I will not be able to do my plan with using entirely images for my videos seeing as premiere can't handle the 60,000+(after cuting out all the odd numbered images) pictures

Couldn't you use Vdub to make them into a avi?
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Postby jasper-isis » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:19 pm

pen-pen2002 wrote:
ooshna wrote:ok i guess I will not be able to do my plan with using entirely images for my videos seeing as premiere can't handle the 60,000+(after cuting out all the odd numbered images) pictures

Couldn't you use Vdub to make them into a avi?


No no, he wants them as pictures instead of a video.

You know what I think of that song. :wink: Go for it.
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Postby Otohiko » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:21 pm

Jasper-Isis wrote:
You know what I think of that song. :wink: Go for it.


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Uh... well, you don't know, but I think about the same thing, etc. :roll:

I picture a very, very colorful potential video there.
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