Has anyone entertained the idea of a "Versus" AMV

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Has anyone entertained the idea of a "Versus" AMV

Postby inthesto » Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:37 pm

I've had this idea for a while, but I can't remember if I've brought it up on the forums before. I did a search which didn't get much, and since my memory's spotty, if I have brought this up, then it didn't generate much conversation.

It would be a specific type of MEP with three (or possibly more) editors involved. Two of the editors each make an AMV using the same audio source, but other than that, it's completely independent. Then, when their videos are finished, they send them over to the third editor, who then "weaves" them together into one "versus" video (can you tell I listen to too much trance?).

Of course, it should remind people of Iron Chef contests, but the difference is that there's no time limit (yeah, a bad thing in some ways, I realize) and the point isn't on-the-spot editing so much as synthesis of two completely different videos. I can already see a pitfall of certain genres not being suited for this (how do you make a romance video when you know another video is going to be constantly interrupting yours?), but I still think it's an idea worth at least discussing.

Thoughts? Realistic idea? Complete garbage?
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:16 pm

Do you expect the outcome to be something like Scintilla's Dueling Videos: Under Ice? I know this has the added feature of being 2 songs (well; more like 1.5), but the general multiple song feature might work as well.

The way you were thinking about going about this is interesting. It definately might work in more of a studio setting for starters. I, for one, would be interested in how something like this might work. You should get some people together and try it out.

An idea that may be more workable would be a dueling song remix that features two clear editing sections. more of a colaborative project than a competitive one. Although, if you know any decent DJs or editors that think they're up to it, 2 complete videos could also be mixed (both audio and video) after their completion for the same (or even a more dramatic) effect.
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Postby dokool » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:29 pm

This was actually the original concept that JG and I had for the Children Project...
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Postby Tsunami Jones » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:37 pm

The Smahut guys did that, with four editors. http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=64012
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Postby Scintilla » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:41 pm

dokool wrote:This was actually the original concept that JG and I had for the Children Project...

It would work with "Children of the Sandstorm", wouldn't it?

(Though there is already a famous video to that track...)
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Postby inthesto » Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:09 pm

It's sort of like Scintilla's Under Ice video, but not quite. I'll admit, I got the idea from The Stark Effect and numerous faceless electronica DJs who take two different songs and blend them into one. Thus, the idea of taking two different AMVs and blending them into one, but rather than deal with issues such as permission and recompression, just have everyone collaborate from the start.

The idea was never meant to be "competitive" in the first place; I just called it a "Versus" video because you always see songs labeled as "Darude vs Robert Miles" or whatever. The nature of it should be collaborative, as I don't really believe in competitive AMVs in the first place.

I think I'll go check out that Into the Fire video right now just to see what happened.

And Children of the Sandstorm makes me cry, just because it has anything to do with that travesty which shall not be named.
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Postby inthesto » Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:13 pm

Also, regarding Bashar's idea of using a dueling song in the first place:

While that's not a bad idea, I don't like it quite as much. In my mind, the idea is to show two different interpretations of the same audio simultaneously, and using the duelling audio with two clearly different editing sections is going to get you...well, it's going to get you Scintilla's Stark Effect video.
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Postby jasper-isis » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:23 pm

Dueling songs? I see more Linkin Park on the horizon. :wink:

But yes, I did like SMAHUT's take on the idea, if that's what you're describing.
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Postby VegettoEX » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:26 pm

Meri and I have always wanted to do a VS video :D. Not sure in what context or any of the logistics, but it would just be funny.
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Postby godix » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:37 pm

It's an interesting idea but I'm not there's that many editors who'd mesh well together like that. Although, Otohiko and Requiet given the same instrumental would be an interesting study in contrasts.
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Postby AMV_4000 » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:39 pm

me and Mr. Pilkington kind of did this.. not really dualing but more of co-op.. we used the song Forgot About Dre. Pilk did Dre's part and i did Eminems part.. also we did the same thing with Guilty Conscience.. it isnt 100% complete though, but their both rather decent..

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Postby Ashyukun » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:59 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Meri and I have always wanted to do a VS video :D. Not sure in what context or any of the logistics, but it would just be funny.


You could always try something like that for your AMV IE track at AWA this year. :wink:
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Postby JaddziaDax » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:17 am

i donno if this counts, but me and my friends though not dueling sort of did this with our MEP it wasnt a matter of competition though (link in sig)

basically we all had the same song, same source, and all decided to edit pieces, granted we tried to work together rather than duel... but it was interesting to see the different styles come together into one project...
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Postby inthesto » Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:47 am

It turns out the SMAHUT video is exactly what I was thinking about.

I guess using the terms "versus" and "duelling" are misleading, as it seems to give everyone the impression that this idea is competitive in nature, which it shouldn't be. I just stole those terms from the music world, for lack of imagination. The idea really is to be collaborative, and to synthesize two different ideas into one.
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Postby SuperFusion » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:54 pm

That video is a sort of collaboration. Rather than the editors editing one certain part of the segment, they all made a video to the song and then I think LCY picked up the be st scenes in their AMVs and edited them into the AMV. How the hell they managed not to use the same scenes, I don't know. =|
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