How to Spot a Bootleg

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Postby Bardiel13 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:47 am

So what should I do? Buy the piss poor counterfeits or wait 100000 years until it gets licensed to the US? Plus there's that awful fear of waking up tied to a chair in Hong Kong, surrounded by Chinese mobsters?
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Postby angelx03 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:51 am

You're human. You can survive without anime.
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Postby Evangelion Unit 01 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:30 am

Bardiel13 wrote:So what should I do? Buy the piss poor counterfeits or wait 100000 years until it gets licensed to the US? Plus there's that awful fear of waking up tied to a chair in Hong Kong, surrounded by Chinese mobsters?


DOn't buy boots, I thought you where morally stronger than that. But seriously it will be released eventually, so why bother wasting your money on the boots. Just watch fansubs or something till they start releasing it here and then buy those copies. And besides if you really like the anime series than I would think your doing a disservies to the creators of the acctual series.

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I agree, just wait, and enjoy what is already here. Or move to Japan, learn Japanese and buy it there and watch it there. But like angelx03 said, you can survive.
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Postby Bardiel13 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:39 pm

Ok, so where can I get legit fansubs?

I actually tried to go a week without anime. It wasn't pretty :twisted:
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Postby Evangelion Unit 01 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:48 pm

Bardiel13 wrote:Ok, so where can I get legit fansubs?

I actually tried to go a week without anime. It wasn't pretty :twisted:


Well I am the wrong person to ask becasue I only buy my anime. I think in my total life I have downloaded 3 episodes of anime fansubs. So, all I can say is just search the net, but remember once you can get the anime series here in america you shoudl get ride of your fansubs and buy the acctual series. At least that is the way those that have the fansubs try and work it. They usually want to help the popularity of the anime and those that made it not steal it and give it away.
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Postby Scintilla » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:59 pm

Bardiel13 wrote:Ok, so where can I get legit fansubs?

<i>Is</i> there such a thing as "legit fansubs"?

But why can't you just download them off the 'net like everyone else? Not that I'll tell you how/where to do that, as it's against forum rules... but how many fansub groups actually <i>make</i> DVDs?
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Postby Bardiel13 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:02 pm

I was wonderng there was such a thing, too. He's telling me to get fansubs instead of bootlegs, when they're practically the same thing and I sure hell am not downloading FOR FREE, because that's just as bad as buying bootlegs if not worse.
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Postby Evangelion Unit 01 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:03 pm

Bardiel13 wrote:I was wonderng there was such a thing, too. He's telling me to get fansubs instead of bootlegs, when they're practically the same thing and I sure hell am not downloading FOR FREE, because that's just as bad as buying bootlegs if not worse.


Look, I am not for fansubs, like I said I have only DLed 3 episodes. Two where of Naruto and one was of Boogiepop Phantom. I have the Boogiepop Phatom series now and have seen the whole thing on DVD, and am currently buying the naruto Manga, which vol 6 was jut recently released. The three episodes I had are gone. I personally feel that booters a lot worse than fansubs based on this informaiton below

Anime Digital wrote:Although fansubs are unlicensed and a breech of copyright law, video companies in the western anime industry generally turn a blind eye. Fansubbers stop distributing the title as soon as the license has been bought by a company who will produce the title in their local language (this may not mean the fansubber's country). If they do not stop distributing titles when a license has been purchased by a video company the fansubber can be seen as video pirates and risk criminal prosecution.


I have been told also from other people and websites that fannsubbers want to popularize an anime before it comes out to the USA. Then when it is here they stop allowing it for download. Booters you have to pay for, and they, most likly, have already been licenced here. Booting is a lot more evil then fansubbing, but I am not saying I am for fansubbing either. Shit can people just face up and wait for an anime to be released here, and then buy the real thing. I mean come on, I am not rich, and I work at a pratically mini-wage job with low hours. If I can buy and enjoy anime so can you. Shit!
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Postby Bardiel13 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:54 pm

Hmm... I see... Ok, then! Thanks for all of that.
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Postby Bardiel13 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:55 pm

One more question: Downloading fansubs (or anything in general) is illegal, ne? Thought so. No way I'm doing anything illegal XD. HURRY UP AND LICENSE THE GOOD STUFF, USA!!! :evil:
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Postby angelx03 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:58 pm

Technically, yea. But there's a "moral standard" where we should stop downloading fansubs when the series gets licensed. I sometimes stop until the DVDs are released. :roll:
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Postby angelx03 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:00 pm

Gah! It should say "I stop downloading when the DVDs are released."

Hmmm, I think I made it more confusing. :oops:
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Postby Bardiel13 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:04 pm

Well, if someone gets caught downloading fansubs, they get finned, right? *sigh...* stupid copyright laws... -_-
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Postby Otohiko » Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:22 pm

I don't think there's been a precedent of that.
Noone, as far as I'm aware, has yet been taken to court over producing, let alone watching fansubs (under the fansubbers' code, anyways). If they would have, that probably would cause a huge shakeup in the fansubs community to say the least... :roll:

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Postby Chiikaboom » Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:52 pm

I don't really like bootlegs, but they aren't HORRIBLY bad. Like, I recently bought the Full Moon bootleg boxsets, and im happy with them although they are bootlegs. The show isn't liscenced in the first place, and chances are it never will (because of the singing.. unless the dont dub the singing..). The subtitles are never that great, so thats why I watch the fansubs first then buy the dvds, bootleg or not. The good thing about these full moon dvds is they do not have that annoying number in the corner, like some of the fansubs do. I've even used the boxsets to make music videos.

Of course, there are bootlegs that are very bad. My friend had ordered a bootleg boxset and the quality was like, ancient VHS quality. So if you are going to decide to buy bootlegs, be careful, cause you never know what your going to get.
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