Old time effect as in the 1930s?

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Old time effect as in the 1930s?

Postby DuoEnigma » Sat Sep 14, 2002 12:32 pm

How can i make an effect like when they made movies in the 30's or whatever. With lines and you can see dust in the cinema. Similar to that effect they had in the music video Papa roach "she loves me not"
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I just finished a video that used an effect like that.

Postby Otonashi_Net » Sat Sep 14, 2002 5:20 pm

Have you tried Sonic Foundry's Vegas Video 3.0?

In the effects there is a section of filters for film effects. In those are some nice ones like 80's, 1908, very old, etc.

Just a thought.
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Postby klinky » Sat Sep 14, 2002 5:39 pm

Just so you know there probably isn't a way to get this effect done for $FREE$ you would need to purchase a plugin to do it properly.


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Postby DuoEnigma » Sat Sep 14, 2002 5:46 pm

and how much will that plugging cost and what is the name?.....more ninfo please if you gots the info
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Postby ErMaC » Sat Sep 14, 2002 5:47 pm

Er I dunno about hte current Quicktime but previous Quicktimes had an Old Film effect filter that was free - or maybe it only came with QT Pro, I don't recall, but it's what I used for the Old Film effect in my first version of Closer to God back in Jan 2001.
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Postby alternatefutures » Sat Sep 14, 2002 7:11 pm

There's a plu-in for Adobe that runs around $90, however it does have a free trial version available. Check the listings for third party plug-ins on Adobe's website to find it.
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Postby Bushido Philosopher » Sun Sep 15, 2002 12:37 am

$90 FOR ONE FILTER!!!??? JUST ONE!!?? :shock:

Damn, and I thought Premiere alone was expensive.....
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Postby trythil » Sun Sep 15, 2002 1:45 am

Well, you could always try doing it the hard way, which is also the free way:

The faded film look can be done by playing around with an HSV filter. Adding dust can be done by jacking around a bit with the pencil in your favorite image-editing tool and creating a dust-line video sequence out of that, which you could loop. If you want to make it look a bit more random, just make it longer. Same goes for the lines, cigarette burns, etc.

If you want projector-lens transition effects (e.g. as seen in Aluminum Studios' "Closer"), you can accomplish those with some projector panning and zooming. It takes a little bit of coordination, but it's not impossible.
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Re: Old time effect as in the 1930s?

Postby TaranT » Sun Sep 15, 2002 3:47 am

DuoEnigma wrote:How can i make an effect like when they made movies in the 30's or whatever. With lines and you can see dust in the cinema. Similar to that effect they had in the music video Papa roach "she loves me not"


This was asked two weeks ago:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3117

If you're using Premiere 6, drop the QuickTime filter on the clip, select Film Noise, and adjust the sliders for hair, scratches, and dust. Color fading is allowed, but there are only four choices.

Vegas Video v3 is a bit expensive, but the same effect can be had in Sonic Foundry's cheaper software ($60), VideoFactory v2. It allows slider adjustment of dust, flicker, hair, jitter, scratches, grain, color, and tint. The effect can be keyframed if you want to start a clip looking old and end it looking new (for example).

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Postby The Wired Knight » Sun Sep 15, 2002 1:03 pm

now I'mnot sure how good it is but I just purchased a Sima collor corecter (about $40 at best buy) and it claims to haev an old time effect from the period you want. I haven't used it because I haev no need. But there is a switch so you will capture in that quality.
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FYI

Postby Koishii » Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:15 pm

just for your information the effect you're trying to create is called cepiatone which was named after cepia which I believe was the name of the developing chemical used at the time... over the years film chemicaly treated with this turned slightly brown which gives that "old time" effect.
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Postby The Wired Knight » Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:55 pm

Ok, if you want Sepia tone, many programs have an option to mess with the hue, some have presets, DV has a little setting of sepia to tint all the footage of a scene, it doesn't make it lok that old though, it just gives it an odd tint.
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Re: FYI

Postby DuoEnigma » Sun Sep 15, 2002 7:31 pm

Koishii wrote:just for your information the effect you're trying to create is called cepiatone which was named after cepia which I believe was the name of the developing chemical used at the time... over the years film chemicaly treated with this turned slightly brown which gives that "old time" effect.


Thanks for the info
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