Whats the best capture card to get?

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Whats the best capture card to get?

Postby JenCM18 » Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:27 pm

Hi I've been really wanting to start making music videos with a resolution of 720*480.[ripping dvds would just be a pain in the butt to me. cause then have to convert the.vob files into avis I'd like to stick with a capture card its much easier to capture just footage to you want]

The capture card I have right now can't even capture anything higher then 320*240. [I have WinTV-GO so yeah I've read other reviews that it can't and I've tried it drops frames and makes lines in the video making it look like crap and you cant capture it at 720*480]

I was just wandering what is the best capture card to get to be able to capture video at 720*480? [and the price of it too]

If anyone can help me out I'd greatly appreciate it!!! ^_^
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Re: Whats the best capture card to get?

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:48 am

JenCM18 wrote:[ripping dvds would just be a pain in the butt to me. cause then have to convert the.vob files into avis I'd like to stick with a capture card its much easier to capture just footage to you want]


Read ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides

DVD ripping is ALWAYS superior to capturing, AND less of a hassle.

And editing with AVI files is ALWAYS gona be sub-par.
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Postby JenCM18 » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:48 am

sorry but I don't like ripping its a pain.. I want to know whats the best capture card to get.

I've had win tv-go for over 3 years now I believe and I've only been capturing at 320*240 as .avi's uncompressed. It has good quality capturing it at the 320*240 resolution. But now I want to be able to capture 720*480 resolution and keep the same excellent quality.

If I don't get any help from here thats ok and I appreciate it for someone replying ^_^

I'm about to just go to a computer store and ask about whats the best capture card to get to be able to capture video at 720*480 resolution.

its less of a hassle to capture than it is ripping.

I've ripped dvds before and I don't like it now. I was going to start trying it again but I don't want to now. u.u;;
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Postby Kalium » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:05 am

No, really, ripping is always preferable. Read the guide. You don't have to convert to edit, there are ways around that.

Your quality will be much higher with ripping, too.
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Postby JenCM18 » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:15 am

quality can be high capturing too if you have the right capture card so I don't know whats the difference.

I redownloaded AMVapp and Smart Ripper. Not sure if I'm going to use it. Because it is a pain to pretty much rip the whole dvd just to get maybe just one part of the footage you want. but I guess it could be easy if you get used to it. But I think some dvds it won't let you rip them so do you need to install that dvd decryptor thing from the amv app?

I read the guide onto using avisynth to be able to open up the vob files in adobe premiere 6.0 without converting but it seems confusing to me even when i did read it. lol

What other stuff do you think I should install?

Cause I'm not sure on to just install avisynth or all the things it has in the amv app.
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Postby JenCM18 » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:21 am

ooooooo thanks TaranT for the websites with those capture cards ^_^

I was just wandering do you know if you can capture 720*480 resolution video as .avi's uncompressed? [I know it would have a big file size. but I'm going to soon get a bigger hardrive I have a 160 gb and thats still not enough for video-editing. lol]
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Postby Kalium » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:44 am

JenCM18 wrote:quality can be high capturing too if you have the right capture card so I don't know whats the difference.

Capturing involves a D:A and a A:D conversion - there will be a loss of quality involved.

As for what you need, I think the AMVapp should cover everything. If you use VirtualDubMod, you can covert select scenes to uncompressed or HuffYUV or other lossless AVI without too much effort (this requires use of DGIndex and AVS).
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Postby FurryCurry » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:29 pm

If you are dead set on using a capture card, I'd recommend the Compro Video Mate Ultra, mostly based on the testing done by Richard Berg, who is very knowlegsable about that sort of stuff.

You can get a look at a comparisons page at:
http://www.richardberg.net/WeatherMapRoundup

There's a lot of other pages about video capture on that site as well.


That said, DVD ripping is about 879032450234 times better than analog capture, the new amv.app and guide is very comprehensive and well done, and it is soooo worth learning to do stuff that way.
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Postby madmallard » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:38 pm

is it really easier to rip if you're making a various video from dvds?


i don't think so. especially once you pass the 5 disc mark....
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Postby TaranT » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:56 am

JenCM18 wrote:ooooooo thanks TaranT for the websites with those capture cards ^_^

I was just wandering do you know if you can capture 720*480 resolution video as .avi's uncompressed? [I know it would have a big file size. but I'm going to soon get a bigger hardrive I have a 160 gb and thats still not enough for video-editing. lol]

Those links are for one capture device - which is not a card. It's a small box that attaches to your PCs Firewire port, assuming your PC has one. It only captures to DV AVI files - not quite as high quality as DVD rips, but very close (about 95% or better). (And keep in mind that even DVD rips are not always perfect when it comes to image quality.) This box is designed specifically for this type of capture and it won't save uncompressed video.

sixstop wrote:is it really easier to rip if you're making a various video from dvds?
i don't think so. especially once you pass the 5 disc mark....

I just finished a project where I had to go through all seven Bebop DVDs looking for every scene with Ein. I don't follow the AMVApp. Instead, I took the VOBs (via DVD Decrypter) and dropped them on the Vegas timeline. Then fast-scrubbed through each file, finding and then rendering the scenes that I wanted to DV AVI files. Not the best in terms of quality - Bebop-TV has bad problems with rainbowing, for example - but you'd have to see the AMV to understand why I was not concerned about perfect looking footage.

My alternative was to capture through a older model Canopus box. I'm not sure that either method is faster. In fact, it would be about the same - just looking at the capturing side. Downstream stuff, like rendering and image cleanup, is another story.
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Postby madmallard » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:13 pm

oh I didn't imply it was faster. ;p

I just know when you're going through a 30 series AMV, that the capture ability is fewer steps to accomplish the same thing.

Its easier to let some setting in a script or encode go by than it is to mess up a good working capture device, i feel.
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Postby JenCM18 » Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:08 pm

I change my opinion it is alot better ripping dvds less of a hassle takes less time. And ripping it takes up less space on your hardrive which is really a plus.^_^

I have ripped footage off of my sailor moon stars dvds and going to make a music video now but not sure what song to use yet but I will find one. Or I might just remake another one I have done before.

Thanks for your help though about which is the best capture card but now I think I'm going to stick with ripping now. I've changed my mind so many times. lol
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Postby JenCM18 » Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:09 pm

I change my opinion it is alot better ripping dvds less of a hassle takes less time. And ripping it takes up less space on your hardrive which is really a plus.^_^

I have ripped footage off of my sailor moon stars dvds and going to make a music video now but not sure what song to use yet but I will find one. Or I might just remake another one I have done before.

Thanks for your help though about which is the best capture card but now I think I'm going to stick with ripping now. I've changed my mind so many times. lol
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