Somethin that's been troubling me about AX's contest...

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Somethin that's been troubling me about AX's contest...

Postby TommyRude » Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:57 pm

Is anyone else bothered by the fact that AX 2004's contest featured 3 (that i can remember) videos that were made entirely from game CG even though the rules specifically say those aren't allowed? (I know one other person is but he won't be named since he said he didn' wanna be the one to bring it up.)
Who's to blame, the people who send in the videos without reading the rules, the judges for not knocking them out before they went to pre-judging, or the democratic process that made them finalists afterward?
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Re: Somethin that's been troubling me about AX's contest...

Postby jbone » Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:23 am

TommyRude wrote:Is anyone else bothered by the fact that AX 2004's contest featured 3 (that i can remember) videos that were made entirely from game CG even though the rules specifically say those aren't allowed? (I know one other person is but he won't be named since he said he didn' wanna be the one to bring it up.)
Who's to blame, the people who send in the videos without reading the rules, the judges for not knocking them out before they went to pre-judging, or the democratic process that made them finalists afterward?
Thoughts?


The contest coordinator (or the person responsible for initially screening the videos, if that individual is not the contest coordinator) is at fault for not immediately rejecting the videos upon receipt.

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Postby KoJiRoHx » Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:30 am

Contest coordinators as well. Entire CG videos were shown last yr as well.
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Postby Pwolf » Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:14 pm

i was thinking about that. I don't have a copy of the rules, but it was definatly odd, cause i thought that you couldn't enter videos with game footage :| it would definatly be the coordinators fault but ultimatly, it is their decision to allow or deny a video :|


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Postby Castor Troy » Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:25 am

I'm ok with it just as long as my ps2 ripping guide is being put to good use. 8)
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Postby TommyRude » Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:42 am

I think the whole situation sucks, to be honest.

1, the rules said "This is not a video game or live action music video contest."

2, I think 3D videos have an unfair advantage as long as large groups of viewers are in charge of judging.

3, just me personally, I think the vast majority of these videos suck.Hell, both of those Kindom Hearts videos looked like the same damn video.
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Postby The Wired Knight » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:01 am

I am slightly irritated that they excepted them. Really I don't care if people make videos and submit them if they are video game footage but if the con says no video game footage then they should hold to it.
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Postby ProphetDK » Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:50 am

all I can say is that last year they actually stated that they changed the rule for the Contest to allow VG footage to be used in the AMV contest. Now they did not say that is was going to carry over to this year and I did not see if the rule had changed back from 2003 to 2004. but I know it was in the FaQ last year.
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Postby Fungie½ » Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:24 pm

I think that if the coordinators want to make an exception, they can. After all, they're the ones who wrote the rules, so they can bend them.
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:02 pm

Fungie½ wrote:I think that if the coordinators want to make an exception, they can. After all, they're the ones who wrote the rules, so they can bend them.


I disagree. By having the rule it stops many people from potentially entering. Allowing people who do not read the rules to have their videos entered is a slap in the face to all those who didnt send videos in because they were obeying the rules.

ADDITIONAL rules may be added (if applied fairly to all entrants) in order to filter videos that didnt break any actual rules but are inappropriate in some other manner but rules should not be removed at a later date as it is unfair on the entrants who followed them.
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Postby GreatLupin » Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:41 pm

I think that the no VG rule is dumb. As long as the video is good it should be allowed. Its like saying no one should be allowed to cosplay as vg characters at an anime con. Anime and vg's go hand in hand. but i will admit that i do agree with the fact that the two kingdom hearts videos looked the same.
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Postby The Wired Knight » Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:39 pm

GreatLupin wrote:I think that the no VG rule is dumb. As long as the video is good it should be allowed. Its like saying no one should be allowed to cosplay as vg characters at an anime con. Anime and vg's go hand in hand. but i will admit that i do agree with the fact that the two kingdom hearts videos looked the same.


I;m not saying that VG AMVs shouldn't be allowed, HOWEVER you shouldn't make a rule saying that they can't be enetered and then suddenly put a few of them in the finals when you said that they would be disqualified.

What if the olympics suddenly allowed one athlete in who was taking steroids as an exception and he won a gold medal? Granted taht this happened before but let's assume taht they were well aware of the fact taht he was taking steroids. Under that perspective it's pretty bad.
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Re: Somethin that's been troubling me about AX's contest...

Postby XStylus » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:28 am

I don't think there was anything in the rules saying that you -couldn't- make a VG video though, and since we had one at AX2003, that somewhat set a precident.

Personally though, I'm not too keen on the idea of having VG videos in an Anime Music Video competition either.
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Postby Kumagarou » Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:01 pm

Fyi, I specifically emailed the coordinator asking if it was alright to enter my Kingdom Hearts video, seeing as it's VG footage. They said it was fine since they allowed an Final Fantasy video in last year and that those particular Square Enix character designs are in the nature of anime characters but 3D, so I sent it in. This is why the videos most likely weren't disqualified. =/
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