the Black Monarch wrote:As much as AMD likes to harp on the Pentium 4s being so inefficient, they rarely like to acknowledge that having a 50% higher clock speed is an equally valid way of achieving higher performance.
the Black Monarch wrote:I mean, aside from AMD's new 250MHz system bus
the Black Monarch wrote:Hey DW, remember when you told me that the two differences between the 64 FX and the non-FX chips was that the FX had a 10% higher clock speed and an integrated memory controller?
the Black Monarch wrote:And I'm still not too happy about AMD claiming that the Athlon 64 is "8th-generation" when it's really just the 7th-gen Athlon XP with an integrated memory controller and 64-bit extentions.
DaNuKa_SAN wrote:We must also not forget that AMD also implements more pipelines in the XP series and athlon...making it possible to have an inferior clockspeed but enough routs in order to make up bringing it equal to a higher core spped processor with fewer pieplines
quick example, AMD XP 2500+...actually has a core speed of 1.83 Ghz...does the same job as a 2.5 Ghz processor with fewer pipelines just about.
dwchang wrote:We do eh? I seem to recall me posting that Performance = Speed * instructions per clock. Oh wait, I bet you didn't read that...![]()
dwchang wrote:Our what?
dwchang wrote: No, I don't recall saying anything about a memory controller. I did say that the FX is slightly faster, but not 10%.
dwchang wrote: In one iteration it was 200 Mhz, so roughly 8% then.
dwchang wrote:I also recall saying that the Opteron has 3 HT links while the Athlon-64 does not.
dwchang wrote:Also that the FX has a 1 MB L2 cache while the initial Athlon 64's had 256 KB. BTW the 64's are now have *up to* 1 MB, but when I said that, it was true.
dwchang wrote:I guess what I'm getting at is that you need to read more carefully before trying to "refute" something.![]()
dwchang wrote:Yes because redesigning your North-Bridge, IOs, adding 64-bit extensions, etc. is really easy to do and not a big deal. Thank you Mr. Computer Architect.
the Black Monarch wrote:I know, it's kind of funny to see DW get bitchsmacked in an argument related to CPUs, isn't it?
I love my Peltier unit.
DaNuKa_SAN wrote:*lookin at wat the man above said*
AMEN!
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