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Postby Bahamut God » Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:30 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:Don't worry about that... we have an IRC server!

#AMV on zirc.org

For a list of zirc servers go here or alternatively if you want to use a web-based irc client use zirc's own client here.

Further intergration into the org will happen later once things are settled down.

For a preliminary list of rules for the channel, go here.


...Irc does not work on macs. (really, no one can seem to make irc work on a mac...)
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Postby Bahamut God » Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:36 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:Don't worry about that... we have an IRC server!

#AMV on zirc.org

For a list of zirc servers go here or alternatively if you want to use a web-based irc client use zirc's own client here.

Further intergration into the org will happen later once things are settled down.

For a preliminary list of rules for the channel, go here.


Yeah, but no human has ever made Irc work on mac. I have had people who are IRC masters on pc come over and try to help me get going on irc, and it never works.

...Plus I hate irc.

*sigh* I don't really understand why we have to get rid of things. What's wrong with having both?

What was the aim chat room name again? (might have to Pm oni on this on?)
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Postby LightningCountX » Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:15 am

if you need help oping the channel id lend out a hand. Im somewhat familiar using mIRC.
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Re: Holy flying crap!

Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:03 am

Regarding the Mac issue...

The web clients linked to on the IRC page seem to work perfectly fine for a lot of the people who want to visit the chat room.

I presume that Macs have web browsers :P
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Postby Zarxrax » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:32 am

Bahamut God wrote:...Irc does not work on macs. (really, no one can seem to make irc work on a mac...)


I know thats bull cause I have friends on IRC that use MACs :p

Try here, first link that google returned...

http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/mac/
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Postby derobert » Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:19 am

Bahamut God wrote:...Irc does not work on macs.
Hmmm? I've used IRC on Macs since System 7. Nowadays, I use xchat...
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Postby Wheee_It's_Me! » Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:57 pm

He, he, he, he...

So many posts and yet not one person has even seen the point of all this...control.

The AIM chat room is perfect, better than great even...well except for the fact that those who run the .org don't have any control over it. ^_^

Did anyone else notice how AD was ranting on about rules this and rules that in nearly every post they've made so far in this thread?

Just to warn you AD, you should be more careful about excercising power, or you'll split this entire community in half so quick it'll make your head spin...although I believe a couple others already did warn you of that in the 'Goodbye Phade' thread.

Now that Phade isn't here anymore, well, ALL those people who replied in that thread...do you really expect any of them to hold any loyalty to you of all people? *shrugs*

As a suggestion, you might wanna think more about improving your image in this community before you start deciding to go around making sweeping changes. Or don't. Your choice entirely. `, )
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:59 pm

ok
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Postby BogoSort » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:02 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:So many posts and yet not one person has even seen the point of all this...control.


Well that is the point of IRC over AIM. Why should there be an official chat room over AIM where the administrators of animemusicvideos.org don't have any control? If people just want to talk about stuff randomly, then they should create their own chat room free from the rules and regulations of this site. Since the goal is to have a legitimate chat room to go along with the site, then the spirit of the rules of animemusicvideos.org has to be transferred to any official chat room. IRC has the features and functionality to allow the administrators to do this, whereas AIM doesn't.

If you don't like this aspect of control, no one's making you use IRC, you're perfecttally free to use the AIM chat room, or whatever other chat rooms that you can find with much more freedom.
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Postby paizuri » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:08 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:ok

You're going down big man! :roll:

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Postby Wheee_It's_Me! » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:18 pm

BogoSort wrote:Well that is the point of IRC over AIM. Why should there be an official chat room over AIM where the administrators of animemusicvideos.org don't have any control?


Why does there need to be any control? Unless you lack the cognitive capacity to think for yourself and you need someone to think for you, the type of control you're refering to isn't necesary at all. Here on the boards it's a little different in that there are structured categories, so there needs to be some control as far as organization, not to mention the sheer volume plays an important part. The chat room never really has THAT many people in it.

If people just want to talk about stuff randomly, then they should create their own chat room free from the rules and regulations of this site. Since the goal is to have a legitimate chat room to go along with the site, then the spirit of the rules of animemusicvideos.org has to be transferred to any official chat room. IRC has the features and functionality to allow the administrators to do this, whereas AIM doesn't.


I'm a little confused, what "rules" specifically are you refering to that translate over into the chat room? Further, and you may not realize this, but currently the AIM chat room is acting as a sort of release environment for this community. Anyone who has taken a few courses in psychology can tell you that bottling up your emotions is a REALLY bad thing. By trying to cut off the old AIM chat room, the only current way of venting your emotions is being cut off (since if you started ripping on someone you'd probably get banned). This in turn is going to wind up creating a rather vast amount of emotional pressure in this community which will eventually cause it to explode. Again though, I'm saying all this as just a personal courtesy, I for one can't say as I would be too broken up (pardon the pun) if this community would do the same.

If you don't like this aspect of control, no one's making you use IRC, you're perfecttally free to use the AIM chat room, or whatever other chat rooms that you can find with much more freedom.


Thank you for supporting my point. ^_^

Now then, how many people do you figure don't like that all encompasing level of control? And yes, you're right, they will leave. It's not so much their leaving though so much as what they'll do AFTER they leave which will kick some people in the ass. Again though, I'm partially for the fragmentation of this community, so I maybe I should stop giving you pointers. BTW, just so you're aware, I've done some rather extensive studies and experiments regarding the nature of online communities, so I have quite a bit of experience regarding this subject.
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Postby Corran » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:28 pm

The number of users in the IRC chat room is about twice of what it used to be in the AIM chat room. I don't know about you but I'd consider it a rather sucessful move on behalf of the administration.
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Postby Wheee_It's_Me! » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:34 pm

Corran Productions wrote:The number of users in the IRC chat room is about twice of what it used to be in the AIM chat room. I don't know about you but I'd consider it a rather sucessful move on behalf of the administration.


Slippery slope fallacy. How do you figure the increase isn't due to the news of the new chat channel (fueled mostly by this particular thread)? Seems you're implying that once the "newness" factor wears off the level of traffic will stay consistent...a pretty big assumption on your part, at least in my experience.

A much more likely scenario is that as soon as this thread starts to die off, so will the IRC chat room.
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Postby Corran » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:42 pm

These aren't just people entering, staying half an hour to see what things are like and then leaving. These people are staying in the chat for hours at a time. If it sucked they would have left already.
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Postby Otohiko » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:43 pm

I never used either chatroom :|

Oh noez! There's no chatroom I never visited in the first place and I don't like AIM! The cummunity as we know it is daed because AD now controls the chat room I never visited!!!!!! :(


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