My DVD player is scrambling my VCDs.

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My DVD player is scrambling my VCDs.

Postby angelx03 » Sat May 22, 2004 10:17 pm

Ok, when I try to play my VCDs on my DVD player (which by the way supports VCD playback), the picture gets all scrambled and blocky and tend to skip. Any idea of what I should do? This problem NEVER happened before until just now. Just for reference, I have an APEX AD-1000 DVD/MP3/VCD player, and I'm trying to play a VCD 2.0.
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Postby Scintilla » Sat May 22, 2004 10:19 pm

What aspect ratio are the videos? I once made the mistake of mixing 352x240 and 640x480 MPEG-1s on a VCD (this was before I knew what I was doing aspect-ratio-wise), and the 640x480 episode, though it played fine on our DVD player at home, choked up something terrible on a different one (that played the 352x240s fine).
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Postby angelx03 » Sat May 22, 2004 10:21 pm

I believe it's 4:3.
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Postby Scintilla » Sat May 22, 2004 10:27 pm

I'm a moron.

What I meant to say was: what <I>resolution</i> are the videos at?
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Postby angelx03 » Sat May 22, 2004 10:31 pm

It's definetely 352x240. Heck, it event passed the VCD compliance test in Roxio.
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Postby Farlo » Sun May 23, 2004 9:27 am

i have an apex dvd player also, the skipping is due to the source footage...

if you set it up to convert an (divx)avi to the mpeg for the vcd usage, its divx thats causing the skipping, certain divx builds dont like to be made into an mpeg

if you can convert the divx avi to an uncompressed avi
wav audio
uncompressed video

then use your vcd making prog and go through the encoding process again and it shouldnt skip on you
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Postby angelx03 » Sun May 23, 2004 9:35 am

That's what I did, unfortunetely. Man, now I to reburn all those videos. :x

Well, thanks for helping me. :P
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Postby angelx03 » Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:44 am

OMG, necropost!

Ok, will it work if I converted the video to huffyuv by using VirtualDubMod?
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Postby LantisEscudo » Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:46 pm

What are you using to create the .mpg files that you're sending to Roxio, or are you just importing the AVIs into the program?

If you're using an external encoder (like TMPGEnc), then converting to Huffy before you encode will probably be fine.

If you're importing directly, I really don't know how well it will work, since I haven't worked with Roxio's burning products since they were still part of Adaptec.
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Postby angelx03 » Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:18 pm

Ok, any AMVS that are in an .avi formats (either encoded in Divx or Xvid), I use VirtualDub in order to break off the video and audio and convert them to their uncompressed formats. Some AMVs (mostly Janzki's videos) have this VDR encoding error when I load up the video into VirtualDub, so I load those videos into VirtualDubMod and convert it to huffyuv (I don't think VirtualDubMod has the ability to seperate that video and the audio). Then I loaded up those uncompressed videos and audios and MPEGs into TMPEGnc, and then convert them to VCD compliant MPEGS.
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Postby LantisEscudo » Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:31 pm

angelx03 wrote:I don't think VirtualDubMod has the ability to seperate that video and the audio


It does, under Streams -> Stream List, then select the audio stream and hit the button marked "Save as WAV."

angelx03 wrote:Then I loaded up those uncompressed videos and audios and MPEGs into TMPEGnc, and then convert them to VCD compliant MPEGS.


Are you using the Wizard, or are you manipulating the settings yourself? Also, check the resulting MPGs in a player on your computer before you burn them, to make sure that it's the player or burning program that's having problems.
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Postby angelx03 » Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:46 pm

*checks up on VirtualDubMod*

Ah dammit! :x

Anyways, that's the thing. The MPEGs play perfectely fine on my computer. It's just when I burn it into a VCD and play on my APEX AD-1000 DVD/VCD player, the video looks scrambled. El farlo mentions the fact that it's due to the video source.
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Postby LantisEscudo » Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:55 pm

angelx03 wrote:Anyways, that's the thing. The MPEGs play perfectely fine on my computer. It's just when I burn it into a VCD and play on my APEX AD-1000 DVD/VCD player, the video looks scrambled. El farlo mentions the fact that it's due to the video source.


Hmm... If the files have been bounced out to an uncompressed/lossless format before being encoded to MPEG, then the actual source shouldn't matter at all.

Do the burned CDs work with a computer DVD program (like PowerDVD or WinDVD or whatever), and have you tried your old VCDs in the Apex? If the burns work and the old VCDs have problems, too, I'd suspect your Apex is having problems playing VCDs.

If the burns don't work and/or the old VCDs work in the Apex, I'd take a look at your burning program.
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Postby angelx03 » Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:07 pm

The VCDs play well in Windows Media Player and WinDVD.
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