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Postby y2kwizard » Tue Aug 27, 2002 6:31 pm

After lots of playing around, trial and error, I've finally learned how to use Premiere to open .avs files. However, Premiere slows down quite a bit, and this would make the editing process much more tedious and difficult than it already is. Does anyone know of any better ways to do this, or is this it?

I'd very much appreciate someone's telling me if there's another way to edit DVD video losslessly.


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Re: ErMac's guide

Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Tue Aug 27, 2002 6:35 pm

y2kwizard wrote:After lots of playing around, trial and error, I've finally learned how to use Premiere to open .avs files. However, Premiere slows down quite a bit, and this would make the editing process much more tedious and difficult than it already is. Does anyone know of any better ways to do this, or is this it?


Sorry, but that's how fast it is. The only other way is to make editable avis from each of your avs files and edit with those. Then when you are done, you swap the editing files for the original avs ones and get your full quality.

y2kwizard wrote:I'd very much appreciate someone's telling me if there's another way to edit DVD video losslessly.


There are other ways but no other way is this reliable. It's also the fastest way, at the moment.

Also, please post any video software questions in the video software help forum. thanks :)
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Postby Ikasu » Wed Aug 28, 2002 12:32 am

Just to ask...What are AVS files?
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Postby klinky » Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:56 am

A AVS file is just a regular text file that you type instructions into. The AVISynth program then reads these instructions and that determines how/what gets displayed. It's basically a configuration script.


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Postby Paul Kievits » Wed Aug 28, 2002 3:56 am

What I do is make low quality avi versions (encoded in something like indeo or whatever at a low resolution and low quality standard) and edit with those. When I'm done I move the file and premiere asks if you want to look for it manually so you do. Then just choose the AVS file to replace it and voila you've got all the right dvd stuff in the right place.
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Postby klinky » Wed Aug 28, 2002 4:27 am

Vegeta for president wrote:What I do is make low quality avi versions (encoded in something like indeo or whatever at a low resolution and low quality standard) and edit with those. When I'm done I move the file and premiere asks if you want to look for it manually so you do. Then just choose the AVS file to replace it and voila you've got all the right dvd stuff in the right place.


Just make sure the low res video is the same resolution as your avisynth version.



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Postby Paul Kievits » Wed Aug 28, 2002 6:59 am

klinky wrote:
Vegeta for president wrote:What I do is make low quality avi versions (encoded in something like indeo or whatever at a low resolution and low quality standard) and edit with those. When I'm done I move the file and premiere asks if you want to look for it manually so you do. Then just choose the AVS file to replace it and voila you've got all the right dvd stuff in the right place.


Just make sure the low res video is the same resolution as your avisynth version.



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Actually I find that it doesn't matter, I normally make my low quality stuff in something like 320*240 whilst the avs is the standard dvd resolution. Premiere doesn't really care, it's the export settings that count I guess.
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Postby klinky » Wed Aug 28, 2002 9:00 am

Well some of the effects, motion settings, tranforms, lens flares, are dependant on resolution. So placing something @ position 300x200 will appear at the bottom when you're using a res of 320x240. If you then try to use 720x480 DVD footage it will appear in the middle, not at the bottom like you wanted it to.


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Postby Paul Kievits » Wed Aug 28, 2002 9:24 am

That's true, and photoshoping images could really turn into a bitch. Butsince I haven't used either yet I hadn't thought of that *applauds for klinky*
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Postby OmniStrata » Wed Aug 28, 2002 11:58 am

Will ErMaC ever update the guide?
for new codecs and such?

hmmm...

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Postby Stryker » Fri Aug 30, 2002 8:20 pm

Not trying offend anyone , but Ermac’s guide is like chinese food…twenty minutes later you’re scratching your head and wishing you had more to chew on, (Or at least it was for me). If you want some better guides to work with, (or at least i think they are), then I suggest that you go to either of these places:


http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/index.htm
(my personal recommendation)

http://www.vcdhelp.com/
(another site filled to the brim with good info)
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Re: ErMac's guide

Postby Bushido Philosopher » Fri Aug 30, 2002 9:47 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:There are other ways but no other way is this reliable. It's also the fastest way, at the moment.


Very true. It was a pain to learn, but now its my favorite way.

Vegeta for president wrote:When I'm done I move the file and premiere asks if you want to look for it manually so you do.


Alternately you can go to Project | Replace clips... But your way is perfectly fine too, whatever works for people.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Fri Aug 30, 2002 11:53 pm

Stryker wrote:Not trying offend anyone , but Ermac’s guide is like chinese food…twenty minutes later you’re scratching your head and wishing you had more to chew on, (Or at least it was for me). If you want some better guides to work with, (or at least i think they are), then I suggest that you go to either of these places:


http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/index.htm
(my personal recommendation)

http://www.vcdhelp.com/
(another site filled to the brim with good info)


Don't ever, EVER, insult ErMaC's guides! But seriously, all the guids at VCDHelp suck in my opinion, and the ones at the nickyguides site suck. ErMaC's method is the easiest in my opinion, but it takes time if you have a slow PC like I do.
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Sat Aug 31, 2002 2:58 am

OmniStrata wrote:Will ErMaC ever update the guide?
for new codecs and such?


ErMaC and I are updating the guides currently.

Also, to help Stryker, I'm annotating all the stuff which is just that little bit too complicated with a laymans version, so it should be good for everyone.
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Postby Stryker » Sat Aug 31, 2002 10:15 am

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:
Don't ever, EVER, insult ErMaC's guides! But seriously, all the guides at VCDHelp suck in my opinion, and the ones at the nickyguides site suck. ErMaC's method is the easiest in my opinion, but it takes time if you have a slow PC like I do.


:? As I said before i even started my previous post, I'm not trying to offend anyone. I was mearly stating how it was for me. And speed has nothing to do with why I use what i use. Oh well.
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