UncleMilo wrote:Oh... I saw that people were asking about the EVAs...
It was established that the EVAs had computer brains that were the same "model" as the MAGI computers. That the computer brains had human imprints to function.
EVA 00 and EVA 02 had computer imprints of Ritsuko's mother and Asuka's mother respectively.
EVA 01 is different, because it has the actual soul and essence of Shinji's mother, Yui.
They mention how only one other person was ever turned to LCL before Shinji... and process of elimination leads you to know that it was Yui who was turned into LCL and absorbed into Unit 01.
If there's any doubt that Ritsuko's mother is the imprint for Unit 00, just look what it does when it goes beserk... taping into the base animal, of course.
-Uncle Milo
Zarxrax wrote:UncleMilo wrote:Oh... I saw that people were asking about the EVAs...
It was established that the EVAs had computer brains that were the same "model" as the MAGI computers. That the computer brains had human imprints to function.
EVA 00 and EVA 02 had computer imprints of Ritsuko's mother and Asuka's mother respectively.
EVA 01 is different, because it has the actual soul and essence of Shinji's mother, Yui.
They mention how only one other person was ever turned to LCL before Shinji... and process of elimination leads you to know that it was Yui who was turned into LCL and absorbed into Unit 01.
If there's any doubt that Ritsuko's mother is the imprint for Unit 00, just look what it does when it goes beserk... taping into the base animal, of course.
-Uncle Milo
Do you have any proof for ANY of this?
The way unit 00 acts does not prove anything regarding that it may have Naoko's brain imprint inside it. It has been speculated that Unit-00 simply wanted to help Rei. Rei did not want to live. It tried to kill her (first berserk ). Having failed, it decided to rage against what was causing Rei pain (2nd berserk).
Daio Kaji wrote:Second Impact
from what i've seen and read (including interviews), it happened in 2000, although the actual results were manufactered, it does not mean the intend was entirely human, i think that Adam was sent to judge mankind and basically kill all of us, but at that point, we had the lance/spear of longinus (sidenote-although some translations are no big deal, some can be insulting in a way, you wouldn't call the Holy Grail, the Holy Mug would you?, so i think we should stay with the traditional Spear of Longinus) so what we (humans) did was use the only instrument capable of killing a god to stop adam from continuing his killing spree, so we stuck in the spear and then that minimized the damage done, so only Antarctica was destroyed entirely, though this still cause widespread flooding. And with the release of all the energy Adam had already released, to survive, he had to reduce himself to an embroynic state, and then he just fell into the ocean to be later recovered and transported to Germany, then Tokyo-3.
it's true that SI destroyed everything down to whatever molecular level, but that doesn't mean that Adam destroyed himself, he survived because he was the source of the destruction, and as for Misato, her little pod was wayyy out on the ocean, so because of the DISTANT view that she had of SI, she was blown out to sea, outside of the explosive range of SI
as for the religious references, some people should realize that things are not happening according to or in reference to the CHRISTIAN BIBLE, it is the Kaballist religion that is being tapped into, just thought i should point this out, some people were making big arguments about stating true to the source of reference, but they themselves had the wrong reference, so i hope this helps
Tab. wrote:Daio Kaji wrote:Second Impact
from what i've seen and read (including interviews), it happened in 2000, although the actual results were manufactered, it does not mean the intend was entirely human, i think that Adam was sent to judge mankind and basically kill all of us, but at that point, we had the lance/spear of longinus (sidenote-although some translations are no big deal, some can be insulting in a way, you wouldn't call the Holy Grail, the Holy Mug would you?, so i think we should stay with the traditional Spear of Longinus) so what we (humans) did was use the only instrument capable of killing a god to stop adam from continuing his killing spree, so we stuck in the spear and then that minimized the damage done, so only Antarctica was destroyed entirely, though this still cause widespread flooding. And with the release of all the energy Adam had already released, to survive, he had to reduce himself to an embroynic state, and then he just fell into the ocean to be later recovered and transported to Germany, then Tokyo-3.
it's true that SI destroyed everything down to whatever molecular level, but that doesn't mean that Adam destroyed himself, he survived because he was the source of the destruction, and as for Misato, her little pod was wayyy out on the ocean, so because of the DISTANT view that she had of SI, she was blown out to sea, outside of the explosive range of SI
as for the religious references, some people should realize that things are not happening according to or in reference to the CHRISTIAN BIBLE, it is the Kaballist religion that is being tapped into, just thought i should point this out, some people were making big arguments about stating true to the source of reference, but they themselves had the wrong reference, so i hope this helps
Your above two points are pretty contradictory. Your beliefs about Adam 'judging' and being sent by whomever are completely against any kind of Kabbalistic thought. That sort of master-slave thing is predominant in exoteric Hebraic and Christian tradition.
It's made relatively clear that the awakened condition of Adam combined with the awakening of the other angels spelt certain doom for humanity, and so Adam's DNA was extracted and the rest was destroyed. It's not about judging and killing humanity, it's about toying with things that don't belong in the hands of man and the dangers inherent in that.
Daio Kaji wrote:her body is NOT the salvaged remains of Yui, because Yui was turned into LCL and absorbed by Eva Unit 01
okay, you know what, let's put it this way, Rei was not the PHYSICAL salvaged remains of Yui, unless the red cross book for some reason denies Yui being turned to LCL and/or absorbed by Unit 01Zarxrax wrote:Daio Kaji wrote:her body is NOT the salvaged remains of Yui, because Yui was turned into LCL and absorbed by Eva Unit 01
Sorry, but she was. It's stated in the red cross book, which is canon. You can't really dispute it.
Daio Kaji wrote:okay, you know what, let's put it this way, Rei was not the PHYSICAL salvaged remains of Yui, unless the red cross book for some reason denies Yui being turned to LCL and/or absorbed by Unit 01Zarxrax wrote:Daio Kaji wrote:her body is NOT the salvaged remains of Yui, because Yui was turned into LCL and absorbed by Eva Unit 01
Sorry, but she was. It's stated in the red cross book, which is canon. You can't really dispute it.
and besides, the creditability of the Red Cross book has many a time come into question, few give a flipping skip if it's official or not, it was not looked at by everyone involved with eva and definately has been proven to be too general in it's answers
even the Red Cross book does not have all the answers (not saying i do either btw), with all the facts that there are, there are simply some issues that are grey area and will remain so until new evidence is given or produced
Zarxrax wrote:It was obviously physical savlaged remains. What other kinds of remains could there possibly be? Just because she turned into LCL doesn't mean that they couldn't turn her back, they did it with shinji. The difference was that Yui's soul got absorbed by Unit-01. And its entirely probably that they could have at least reverted parts of her body.
As far as the Red Cross Book is concerned, it was APPROVED as accurate by the GAINAX staff, INCLUDING ANNO. I don't see how one could argue that it *isn't* official. It is very general in it's answers as you say, though I don't see how that could be a mark against it. And for the case in question, it specifically states that Rei was created from the salvaged parts of Yui. There is no misinterpretting that.
Daio Kaji wrote:kuuuuuule
few times have eva threads ended in agreement
good times 8)
any thoughts on where Adam went after Second Impact?
me thinks he floated around til germans found him, he served a few yrs in the military
then rondivued (giant sp?) with gendo via kaji-transport 8)
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