Evangelion Episode 23 Director's Cut proves the following...

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Postby HeartbreakerByZep » Sun Feb 01, 2004 6:09 pm

Tab. wrote:Production of eva 02, perhaps?


Good point. Though, they could have done that at Nerv HQ. That would also explain why Asuka wasn't transported to Nerv sooner.
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Postby AtomicWeezleman » Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:46 am

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Vlad86 wrote:Eva3


They say that because Eva 3 didn't have a soul inside it, it was taken over by Bardiel. Unit 4 was destroyed. But I can't explain the mass prods. :?

One common trait among the Eva kids is that by the age of 14, none of them have mothers. Kensuke doesn't have a mom (and I'm pretty sure Toji didn't either). At least Shinji and Asuka still have their mothers protecting them in the Eva. Rei, who was created and has no biological mother has to put up with a soul that hates her (assuming that Naoko IS in Unit 0)


Yeah someone once told me it was about a theory or something by a guy called Freud or something.... anyhow, the theory goes about taking children away from their parents (mothers specifically) to make them stronger, more cpourageous whatever, anyhow, the whole point is for the child to win back their mothers by killing their farthers..... hence the scene in EoE where shinji kills Gendo............ its only something i was told was very very drunk.... there could be something to it, it could be load of bollocks who knows???

I think its safe to asume Naoko soul is inside Unit 00, during tjhe first few epos, unit 00 first tries to kill Rei, and in a flashback, tries to kill Gendo.... so, this kindoff fits with Naoko personality (she killed the first Rei, and shes hates Gendo due to fact that even though Yuri was dead, she still couldnt beat her)...........meh
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Postby Cyanna » Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:21 am

And even though Asuka's mom was driven insane because of the Eva....she didn't die from it. She hung herself. How did her soul get into Eva-02 then?

Naoko's personality is in the MAGI but the process didn't kill her. Her soul could have gone into Unit-00 in the same way Asuka's mother did....and perhaps the same way Rei's soul is transferred among her clones after she dies.
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Postby Zarxrax » Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:41 am

Asuka's mother's soul being absorbed into the eva is what I took it caused her to go insane.
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Postby )v(ajin Koji » Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:27 pm

x2 also:

AtomicWeezleman wrote:a guy called Freud or something....


:lol:

Just found that funny is all...
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Postby Molly568 » Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:05 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Asuka's mother's soul being absorbed into the eva is what I took it caused her to go insane.


When did they ever elaborate more on Asuka's mother? All I remember from the show is her being insane and all.
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Postby AtomicWeezleman » Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:47 am

i guess they leaked little snipets of info accross the series and films........ theres the scene where asuka's mother is holding that doll, thinking its asuka, clearly mad..... mad i say mad!!!, theres where asuka realised her mother was always protecting her. and such things, i guess its little snippets of info that points in this dirrection and we assume it to be correct. But theres little other explanations for her going mad...............
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Postby Zarxrax » Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:03 am

Also it's interesting to note that Asuka is chosen to be an Eva pilot after her mother becomes insane. It would make sense that If her soul was in the eva, they would recruit her child. It's also interesting that when Asuka was recruited was the same moment that her mother killer herself... hmmm....
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Postby AtomicWeezleman » Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:42 am

Hmmm.indeed. (stroky chin time)
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Postby Tab. » Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:00 am

Here we go, in episode 21 Fuyutsuki confronts Gendo about his 'dumb luck' in returning from Antarctica a day before second impact, and says that Gendo brought back with him "all of the project's records and findings". Also, it is said that every single bit of life, down to the molecular level, was destroyed in SI. That would eliminate the possibility of Adam being escavated at a later date.
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Postby Tab. » Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:15 am

Mm, by the way, it seems Gendo was never meant to recieve Adam. In the director's cut, Kaji makes it clear that the purpose of his trip to Japan was to smuggle Adam. It makes sense, then, that Gendo would implant it into his hand. Ups the inseperable-ness factor a bit.
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Postby Cyanna » Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:34 am

An action that certainly fits his personality (I've never seen the director's cut).

Gendo was never meant to do a lot of things...
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Postby )v(ajin Koji » Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:38 am

Cyanna wrote:Gendo was never meant to do a lot of things...


although...he does. Sillay man.

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Postby Tab. » Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:56 am

Molly568 wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:Asuka's mother's soul being absorbed into the eva is what I took it caused her to go insane.


When did they ever elaborate more on Asuka's mother? All I remember from the show is her being insane and all.


It's directly stated in episode 22 that the Eva experiments caused her to become insane.
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Postby Kracus » Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:54 am

Cyanna wrote:It is known that Rei is a clone of Yui Ikari. However we also know that her merging with Lillith helped contribute to Third Impact. Why? Was Rei an angel? Doubt it if she was made with Yui's genes (we don't know if Kaworu was a clone of someone).
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I believe Rei was an Angel, Kaowaru was and so is Rei. That's who registered as an Angel at the last moment before they lost communication with the last official angel (Kaowaru).

But I'm not sure if Rei is a clone or has Lillith's soul, she does however say "Tadaima" "I'm home" before she merges. It's also why that string looking angel looks like Rei when it moves over Shinji. And then Eva 00 looks like Rei before it blows up.

Also I don't think Rei merging with Lillith is what caused the 3I, I think it was also the combination of her pulling Adam into herself before doing it. Remember Gendo shoving his hand into her heart, same hand that had Adam in it.

Also, I'm not sure, but I've always believed Naoko was in 00. I would like to know how this has been debunked. She could have done test with 00 and went insane like Asuka's mom.

I can't remember my reference but I believe 00 and 01 were made from Lillith, not just 01. The only evidence I can say is before 2nd Rei blew up,the entire eva turns into energy looking Rei, just like in EoE when rei merges with Lillith.
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