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Postby trythil » Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:06 pm

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TaranT wrote:I was thinking that these problems were only affecting a little-used browser, but if IE 6 is screwed up too...

Just because you don't use it doens't mean it's little-used. While IE is used by the largest percentage of the population, Mozilla (and its derivatives) and Opera are used by large numbers of people, and it's poor design methodology to not take all browsers into consideration.


Firebird is also better than IE :D (*starts holy war*)

Anyway...

TaranT -- It renders correctly for me now; thanks.
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Postby TaranT » Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:53 am

jbone wrote:Just because you don't use it doens't mean it's little-used. While IE is used by the largest percentage of the population, Mozilla (and its derivatives) and Opera are used by large numbers of people, and it's poor design methodology to not take all browsers into consideration.

Fair enough. But when your time is limited (and you're not being paid :( ), then it's appropriate to focus on the largest customer base. IE has over 95% of the market, so it gets priority.

That said, this has been an educational experience, and I now have two new cool browsers - Opera and Mozilla - that I'll use to check out any new Web pages. I might even start using one on a regular basis.
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Postby TaranT » Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:04 am

OK, I checked the site with several browsers today; not every single page, but enough to see that things are working. These are the browsers I looked at:

IE 5.5 (WinME) - no problems
IE 6 (Win2K) - no problems
Netscape 4.79 (Win2K) - tables don't display cell borders, but still format

Mozilla 1.5 (WinME) - some slight formatting differences; nothing serious
Opera 7 (WinME) - no problems

Mozilla 1.3 (Mandrake 9.1) - I used this to look at the old Web site and it definitely has a problem with the fixed banner (text scrolls over it). Otherwise, things seem to work. It's not the chaos I was expecting.

I did not try Firebird since that appears to be just an upgraded Mozilla.
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Postby jbone » Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:49 am

TaranT wrote:Fair enough. But when your time is limited (and you're not being paid :( ), then it's appropriate to focus on the largest customer base. IE has over 95% of the market, so it gets priority.

Quite understandible... just so long as the person deciding that realizes he'll be hearing complaints from the people whose browsers don't render the page prtoperly. :wink:
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Postby kmv » Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:57 am

TaranT wrote:I did not try Firebird since that appears to be just an upgraded Mozilla.

Firebird == Mozilla Lite :wink:
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Postby TaranT » Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:47 am

jbone wrote:Quite understandable... just so long as the person deciding that realizes he'll be hearing complaints from the people whose browsers don't render the page properly.

Yeah, I discovered that complaining is part of the Mozilla ethic. :o

kmv wrote:Firebird == Mozilla Lite

Firebird lists some interesting features that I think I might look into later. It's only half the size of Mozilla, too.
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Postby jbone » Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:00 am

TaranT wrote:Yeah, I discovered that complaining is part of the Mozilla ethic. :o

I don't use Mozilla... Opera has better tabbed-browsing support on the PC. (I do like Mozilla on the Mac, however.)
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Postby Mr Pilkington » Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:16 am

jbone wrote:I don't use Mozilla... Opera has better tabbed-browsing support on the PC. (I do like Mozilla on the Mac, however.)

Opera is choice software PC side, but for the optimum Mac browsing Safari is the way to go.
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