DVD ripping: a tale of a struggling youth

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DVD ripping: a tale of a struggling youth

Postby Akashio » Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:40 am

I am trying to rip my NTHT DVDs and even though I have a 16x Toshiba DVD-ROM, it rips at a incredibly slow 2.0x. Why is this or how should I go about fixing it?
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Postby Corran » Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:19 am

Ripping is typically based on three factors.

1. Speed of the processor for decyrpting.
2. Speed the DVD drive used for reading the disc.
3. Speed of the hard drive being ripped to.

Find out what in your system needs to be faster and upgrade those parts to go faster. But first make sure you have the latest drivers/firmware for your components before doing this as it could potentially solve your problem.
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Postby Akashio » Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:12 pm

I have a 2.0ghz processor
ATA-100 80gig HDD
DVD-ROM 16x

Doesn't make any sense.
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Postby Corran » Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:33 pm

Did you try updating your firmware for the dvd drive. That is the only thing I can think of possibly holding you back right now.
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Postby LantisEscudo » Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:19 pm

I've run into the 2.0x problem when ripping several times.

The determining factor for me has been whether the DVD drive is a master or slave on its IDE channel. As slave, the drive will only rip at 2.0x, but as master, I've been able to rip at its full read rate.

No idea why it works like that for me, but for some reason it does.
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Postby Corran » Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:35 pm

Maybe the motherboard's BIOS needs to be flashed in that case. :?:
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Postby klinky » Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:09 pm

There are also two different ways to read media with SmartRipper atleast, you could try ASPI first and then Normal... See if that does anything...

I've heard of a couple people getting this problem, not sure what it's caused by...
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Postby bum » Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:10 pm

ok just because it sais 16x it doesnt mean its gona go that fast, but it should be going around 12x. if ya get speeds like 2x and realy slow stuff, then chances are the disk is scrached and the drive is haveing a bitch of a time reading it. but eventualy it should raed over the scrached area and start going a shinier speed again
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Postby J-0080 » Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:21 pm

Yeah mines gone slow like that too. though I noticed that it speeds up as the ripping goes along.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:01 am

With some drives, it just does that.

For example, the firmware put out by Pioneer limits the drive to like 2x ripping.

There's cracked firmwares that the theoretical max is 12x.

It only does it on DVD5 (4.7GB; 4.37GB REAL) DVDs though. DVD9 / DVD17 only do 2x and below.

I ripped a 3GB DVD in 6 mins, it went from around 3x at start to peaking at 11x.
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Postby A.H. » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:52 am

Hrm.... this worries me, because I was considering installing a firewire port on my computer for my DVD drive instead of using my 1:0:0 USB port (0.7x speed). Now the speed is also determined by the hard drive and the decrypter?

I remember seeing the quote from A&E's guide:

first thing to do is to choose a program. It doesn't really matter which one you choose as they all do the same thing which is copy the DVDs to your HD whilst removing the encryption. It's a common misconception that different ripping programs give better visual quality, they don't - they just either work or they don't work.


I kind of already had that idea about quality, but I guess that quote also made me believe that all ripping programs rip at the same speed as well.

Also not sure how my firmware update from HP is going to help. :?
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Postby klinky » Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:40 pm

I don't think it would be a good idea to use either firewire or usb for a DVD drive. Get an internal DVD drive that uses IDE. That will give you better performance overall.


If you must have an external drive, then firewire would be the way to go, or USB2 if you have it in your computer...
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