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Postby asrrin29 » Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:52 am

Oni:
I respect you, I agree with most of your pionts, and I don't mind that you think highly of yourself, I am the same way :D. BUT, by continuing these long posts, you just give that ignorant jbone more to whine about. I suggest, as a friend, that you be the better person and just ignore him. It will piss him off a whole lot more :D

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J-0080 wrote:Oh yes, these "elite" sound ever so much nicer.

jbone wrote:Because they are the moderators, and they were appointed by Phade to help keep the site exactly as he and they desire it to be. ^_^

just one little thing before I ignore you, you claimed that the mods where the "elite" you speak of. how come they are not rushing to your defence? ummm...ya... :roll:
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[MOD467: I would just like to add that not all of the a-m-v.org staff or management endorse jbone and his actions or are elitist pricks. Some do though.]
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Postby Jimmyen » Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:47 am

As someone who does his level best to stay on the very fringes of the "AMV Community" at the best of times, will someone please explain to me why it is impossible for anyone who disagrees with the way this site is run to stop visiting and/or create an alternative?

In fact, based on what I know of this site's mission statement, the very worst thing you could actually do if you wanted to "get back" at Phade for all his perceived crimes against you would be to simply up and leave. The database would be rendered incomplete.

I'd like to know why everyone seems hell-bent on creating a class-war drama instead.
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Postby Arigatomina » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:01 am

[MOD359]The goal is not different for the forums...

In the coming weeks we will be cracking down on stupid threads in General Anime. There's far too much garbage being posted there, and it needs to stop.[/quote]

Thank you for replying. You've cleared up a lot of questions I had, especially concerning GA and the things that are posted in that section. I'll let you get on with it in peace.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:37 am

I'm not trying to argue OT, I'm just curious...

I'd like a response from Ermac and/or you other members who left the Org because of the "inane drivel" that permeated the OT forums.

Ermac, you said you started hating the forums, right? Now, did all the junk in OT really drift up into GA and GAMV at all? I'm seriously asking this, because I don't think I would have noticed it even if it had primarily because none of that ever bugged me. Or are you saying that with the fall of OT all the stupid n00bs have left, thereby ridding the higher forums of much stupidity?

Basically, my question (and I'm not criticizing anyone here) is why you couldn't just ignore the OT forums. In the case of the mods I understand perfectly, but in the case of those members that are bugged by such randomness and pointlessness... I don't quite understand. :?
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Postby Arigatomina » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:59 am

flint_the_dwarf wrote:Basically, my question (and I'm not criticizing anyone here) is why you couldn't just ignore the OT forums. In the case of the mods I understand perfectly, but in the case of those members that are bugged by such randomness and pointlessness... I don't quite understand. :?


It's like having a box of chocolate sitting in the hall - you have to walk past the ants on the way to the kitchen. So, get rid of the chocolate so you don't have to step on the ants on your way through. You just hope they don't invade the kitchen next.
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Postby MCWagner » Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:32 am

mexicanjunior wrote:
[MOD359]Half the reason for the removal of the OT forums is that they were detracting from the rest of the site. Useful people were leaving because the OT forums were bringing in the kind of useless people which make the site unenjoyable for those who chose not to tolerate their shinanigans. Removing those people makes the site more useful, because more useful people will be around.



You know, originally I thought the main reason off topic was removed was because the mods were tired of babysitting the OT threads, which I can respect. Now that I see the main reason was because it pushed away former big name creators and Phade wanted them back...it makes me think it was removed for all the wrong reasons. :?
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Postby Big Big Truck » Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:52 am

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Postby Simpi » Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:45 pm

flint_the_dwarf wrote:I'm not trying to argue OT, I'm just curious...


Good points, though I don't want to comment anyone on personal level.

Now, I don't make that many AMVs, lacking time and suitable equipment (in home) to make them so not many have made it to this site.

Sure, forum can be closed, it's after all Phades right. I can find another one. I think OT was a good place to pass the time and 'shoot the bull', since at least i'm not interested to talk about latest techical specs which are required to make a decent AMV.

But I don't really understand these Ad hominem attacks about OT forum users, saying anyone who posted there was just a troll, nothing more (Ok, i'm exaggerating). I posted a lot to OT but I have not made that many AMVs. Does that automatically make me a substandard person?

But anyway, it was just a forum. Everyone will get over it eventually.

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Postby paizuri » Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:00 pm

Looks like the ad hominem attacks are flying both ways to me.

I'm not really sure what would be accomplished by putting back the OT forums though. It's not like things are going to go back to this magical "way it used to be". Seems to me like everyone might be better served by continuing to move forward and adapt to any new changes instead of trying to relive their questionable glory days.

And if you can't adapt to these new changes? Then overpower the guy holding the gun to your head that is making you come to these forums/this site then.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:19 pm

paizuri wrote:I'm not really sure what would be accomplished by putting back the OT forums though.

Well, that's why I said I'm not arguing the OT forums. I just wanted something made clearer. By now, everyone's found an alternative to the Org OT (whether that's another forum or more free time) and, while OT would get just as much traffic, there is no need for it... until people start announcing themselves in GA or GAMV. :?

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Postby fyrtenheimer » Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:24 pm

I don't think there's really a need for this thread nemore. Why not 'get rid of the fat' instead of trimming.
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Postby asrrin29 » Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:27 pm

MOD359 wrote: Because we're supposed to be impartial and fair to all, regardless of how much we may think Hatter's a moron and jBone is a cool guy.
Note that this view does not represent the beliefs or policies of the the Org staff or management. Not officially anyway.

You seriously think jbone is cool by being so rude and vindictive to people? have you even read some of his posts? He used to make valid pionts and be a good member of the org, but now he just likes thinking he's better than everyone and dissin people. He even says so himself! I've lost faith in the mods if this is how they truely feel.

MOD467 wrote: I would just like to add that not all of the the Org staff or management endorse jbone and his actions or are elitist pricks. Some do though.

My faith has been restored :D
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Postby Lyrs » Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:38 pm

fyrtenheimer wrote:I don't think there's really a need for this thread nemore. Why not 'get rid of the fat' instead of trimming.

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However notice that the number of posts this thread gets is steadily lessening. That i think the mods can attest to. This thread will likely be "dead" in a time not too far if it is not dead already.

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Postby Trident » Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:46 pm

Just my random two cents: it seems like I've seen the mods do more since the OT stuff was removed than in the few months I've been here prior to that. Just wanted to say a) good job guys; and b) it's making me really realize how much crap the mods had to wade through before then. I'm still a bit saddened that they're gone, but it looks like the forum's now a manageable entity. With as much stuff as was posted then as compared to now, it's no wonder the mods couldn't do much...

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Postby SSJVegita0609 » Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:54 pm

I don't really see much differance in the forums, seeing as I've been posting in most sections since I joined. The only thing that seems to have changed is the site suggestions forum, which is now getting much more activity than it used to. GA is still relatively full of screaming Otaku, General AMV is still as interesting as it has been, AMV announcements still doesn't get as many posters replying as it should, and all in all, the only thing really noticably different is that my scrollbar is a bit bigger.
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