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Postby shinji13 » Sun Nov 02, 2003 2:12 am

id rather not look threw it all but if you havent gotten them then:

www.ibuypower.com

and...

www.alienware.com

two of the leading brands in america and they send to like almost every country including canada, customizable comps. :D alienware is sorta better pay monthly...if you want...plus cheaper....
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Postby jonmartensen » Sun Nov 02, 2003 2:16 am

Alienware is overpriced
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Postby dwchang » Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:16 pm

jonmartensen wrote:Alienware is overpriced


Agreed...although definitely (much) better parts used then the "tier ones" (HP, Compaq, Dell, etc.). They all use shitty motherboards and RAM companies. But again, still overpriced. Buy the components yourself and build...you'll save probably a thousand dollars.
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Postby bum » Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:31 am

yep, thats so true. oh and, ive haerd that an athlon64 runing at 2.2 is about 10% fastwe in game performance than a p43.2
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:09 pm

Well, considering it's 64bit and the P4s are still only 32bit.....
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Postby madmag9999 » Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:39 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:Well, considering it's 64bit and the P4s are still only 32bit.....

but the athlon 64 is running on 32 bit becouse programs cant use the 64 bit capabilitys so at 32bit its still much better then the p4
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:21 pm

A ton of programs can use 64bit. The Linux Kernel, for example. Premiere, for example
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Postby madmag9999 » Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:00 pm

really premier can use it. hmmmm i know linux curnel can and windows xp 64bit can but i dont think there are very many others that can
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Postby bum » Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:06 am

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:A ton of programs can use 64bit. The Linux Kernel, for example. Premiere, for example

well actualy, i dont think that you can use premier 7 (not only because its SHIT) because their currently isnt a 64bit version of windows yet thats available to the consumer market. their is a 64bit version of XP but its not available for consumers
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Postby dwchang » Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:32 am

bum wrote: their is a 64bit version of XP but its not available for consumers


Uhm...yes it is. It's been in beta testing for over 2 months now and you can easily request a copy from microsoft, free of charge.
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Postby bum » Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:47 am

mmmmmmmm, it would be nice if ms actualy managed to fucking tell someone about it
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Postby dwchang » Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:53 pm

madmag9999 wrote:
NicholasDWolfwood wrote:Well, considering it's 64bit and the P4s are still only 32bit.....

but the athlon 64 is running on 32 bit becouse programs cant use the 64 bit capabilitys so at 32bit its still much better then the p4


Well sort of...Bum mentioned a 2.2 Athlon 64 beating a 3.2 Ghz. P4...that's probably the 32 bit code that it's beating it in...which furthers my point in the "Speed != Performance" thread. A lowly 2.2 Ghz :P. Imagine how it'd do with 64-bits...oh wait you'd have to buy an Itanium for 64 from intel so it wouldn't be able to even perform :P.

But yeah NDW is also correct in that programs are being compiled for 64-bit and hell, OSes are already out (not just Linux).
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Postby Zabador » Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:02 pm

just to let u know, there is an ebay.ca where all prices are in canadian dollars and you can filter out all items not being sold in canada or even out of province.

found this very useful since i live in canada aswell. Bought me a new monitor :D
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Re: Best CPU

Postby sukotsuto » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:08 am

anime-dragon wrote:hey, im thinking of building a new pc, and i need ur suggestions.
which of the processors is better? P4 or AMD Athlon

I need suggestion in the following

Best for AMV (adobe premire)
Games

this pc is mostly for media purposes.


Well personally I think the "top of the line" in each camp has similar performance.

As to what works better in what you want to use:
I think the p4 has a slight edge in encoding videos, but when you are editing an intel and an AMD would probably feel the same.

For games your best bet would be an Athlon 64 FX if you can afford it. That will best any P4 system (well that paper launched P4EE may stay with it).



Do you like multitasking? Go dual processors (or a quad opteron if cash is no worry :P ). I have a dual athlon and it is great when I am editing and doing various other tasks. Now it would probably be best to go with opterons though.

Don't forget fast disk drives to transfer those big video files around!



I really need to upgrade my computer (more ram, faster drives..etc) :cry:
A few of those new 80gb wd raptors would be great.
Two mp2800+ processors would be nice too.
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Re: Best CPU

Postby dwchang » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:42 pm

sukotsuto wrote:Well personally I think the "top of the line" in each camp has similar performance.

As to what works better in what you want to use:
I think the p4 has a slight edge in encoding videos, but when you are editing an intel and an AMD would probably feel the same.

For games your best bet would be an Athlon 64 FX if you can afford it. That will best any P4 system (well that paper launched P4EE may stay with it).

Do you like multitasking? Go dual processors (or a quad opteron if cash is no worry :P ). I have a dual athlon and it is great when I am editing and doing various other tasks. Now it would probably be best to go with opterons though.


Actually although a similar costing P4 and Athlon will perform similarly, you're incorrect in that "top of the line" for both will perform similarly. As you already noted, a quad-Opteron will maul a dual xeon or anything comprable in price. Hell, even Phade bought a dual Opteron for the .org :-P. I know what you mean though, but I figured I'd point that out since "top of the line" is a misleading word and I think you just meant "comprable." Like I demonstrated, a "top of the line" can be really expensive and significantly different in performance.

Now to be realistic with price, I still say a "top of the line" Athlon 64 FX will pwn an *available* Intel solution. The benchmarks already provide sufficient evidence of this and it seems to win in nearly all things...gaming, encoding, etc.

Then again I'm obviously biased working at AMD, but again, the sites and benchmarks are there :-P. Too bad benchmarks can never be 100% accurate either.
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