Timing

This forum is for the general discussion of Anime Music Videos.

Timing

Postby Badjew » Sat Aug 17, 2002 2:54 pm

I'm just getting into AMVs, but right now one of my major problems in getting the timing down. I just can't think of a good way to figure to find out how long a certain clip should be in relation to the music. Right now I'm trying to make a AMV to a Lupin song, so I can't time by lyrics as it really doesn't have any.
How to all of you get your timing down? Do you just listen to the song over and over again until you get a feel for, or do you something else?
---
Badjew
Sleepisfortheweak.org
Sic Transit Gloria
Badjew
 
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Location: Toronto

Re: Timing

Postby mexicanjunior » Sat Aug 17, 2002 2:57 pm

Badjew wrote:Do you just listen to the song over and over again until you get a feel for, or do you something else?


Yup, every song has certian breaks and markers in it that beg to have a scene change done. Just gotta get a feel for the song. ^_^
User avatar
mexicanjunior
 
Joined: 27 Jun 2001
Location: Dallas, TX
Status: It's a process...

Postby leathelanime » Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:00 pm

I listen to the song in a constant rotation...Then write down the lyrics and try to remember the break points.Once I lace all those down the timing comes like water
User avatar
leathelanime
 
Joined: 30 Aug 2001
Location: Da Mitton

Postby You choose Sam,the rest » Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:06 pm

Pick a random spot and put a clip there and put a big flashing light. People love big flashing lights.....
You choose Sam,the rest
 
Joined: 10 Aug 2001

Postby jbone » Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:26 pm

I listen to the music as it's broken down on the Premiere track, moving it forward and backward frame by frame and piece by piece until I know exactly hwere I want to put my footage.
"If someone feels the need to 'express' himself or herself with a huge graphical 'singature' that has nothing to do with anything, that person should reevaluate his or her reasons for needing said form of expression, possibly with the help of a licensed mental health practitioner."
User avatar
jbone
 
Joined: 12 Jan 2002
Location: DC, USA
Status: Single. (Lllladies.)

Postby SpPANDA » Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:31 pm

alot of the time you can find it in premiere by the bass hits...
User avatar
SpPANDA
 
Joined: 06 May 2002
Location: Santa Clara, CA

Postby RichLather » Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:41 pm

What they all said. Part of it is looking at the timeline to see where the big "pops" are in the song, which can usually signal a good place to put a transition or a nice bit of synched video (an explosion, kiss, punch, whatever).

However, that should be no substitute to listening to the song over and over and assembling it in your mind. What kind of story are you telling? How well do you know your source material? Those are the kinds of questions you will want to have answered to your satisfaction.
User avatar
RichLather
 
Joined: 15 May 2001
Location: Lancaster, OH Position: One of the Elder Statesmen of the .org

Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:48 pm

There's some basic advice on how to time things in my Audio Guide if you need something more step by step, but basically you need to just train your ear.

It's good to know what to look out for though so check it out (link below)...
User avatar
AbsoluteDestiny
 
Joined: 15 Aug 2001
Location: Oxford, UK

Postby trythil » Sat Aug 17, 2002 6:03 pm

A small investment in music training can help your sense of timing immensely. If you have a good understanding of rhythm, you can time very subtle, yet effective, effects out. You may even start to notice that pieces that you didn't mean to synchronize COULD be synchronized if it weren't for that pesky frame or two -- so you delete a few frames here and there.

Of course, timing isn't just about rhythm. You can also time things out to other elements -- key changes, for instance, are popular.
This is a block of text that can be added to posts you make. There is a 512 character limit.
trythil
is
 
Joined: 23 Jul 2002
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

Postby Hitori » Sat Aug 17, 2002 6:16 pm

One time at band camp.... Oh wait... I was watching them.. :twisted:

Yup I used to be in band and you do get to know a whole lot about timing. The best thing is to learn the beats and listen to the music. Yup, listen to the music over and over and over until you figure out where it needs to have a scene change. Remember to write the stuff down so you don't forget. Also, listen to it over and over again after that. When you get a feel for the song, you'll start to think about what the video should do. And then listen to the song some more until you get sick of it.... Don't lose hope yet. This should be the inspirational point where you sit down and put the music and anime chosen together. Just work some sort of plan out in your head and better yet, write it down and do a story board. This will help you visualize where and when you want something to happen. And the rest is up to you. ^_^
ImageImage
Image
User avatar
Hitori
 
Joined: 06 Feb 2002
Location: New Mexico
Status: I might be back.

Postby Melfina » Sat Aug 17, 2002 6:35 pm

I randomly pick scenes using my WMM and all my downloaded dbz subbed RMs and stick them into the timeline with my random LP song until the time is filled, then i put my name at the front with a supar leet background i downloaded off a site, and then its done!!! I WANT A GOOD SCORE!!!!
Forum Nublar
Webmaster and founder of
Image
User avatar
Melfina
 
Joined: 29 Jul 2002
Location: Oakland, CA

Postby Hitori » Sat Aug 17, 2002 6:44 pm

Melfina wrote:I randomly pick scenes using my WMM and all my downloaded dbz subbed RMs and stick them into the timeline with my random LP song until the time is filled, then i put my name at the front with a supar leet background i downloaded off a site, and then its done!!! I WANT A GOOD SCORE!!!!
Thats another way to do it... :lol: Good one!!
ImageImage
Image
User avatar
Hitori
 
Joined: 06 Feb 2002
Location: New Mexico
Status: I might be back.

Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sat Aug 17, 2002 6:55 pm

Ahahaha...

Here's how I do it.

Image


I use the "Show/Hide Audio Waveform" option in Premiere, so that it shows the spikes you see in the pic. That's how I time, and I also time the way jbone does, going frame by frame and marking where I need to put a clip on the Premiere Timeline.
Image
User avatar
NicholasDWolfwood
 
Joined: 30 Jun 2002
Location: New Jersey, US

Postby Melfina » Sat Aug 17, 2002 7:10 pm

Please note this image contains graphic images of a obcene nature to all premiere users and may be unsuitable for young children


Image
Forum Nublar
Webmaster and founder of
Image
User avatar
Melfina
 
Joined: 29 Jul 2002
Location: Oakland, CA

Postby Melfina » Sat Aug 17, 2002 7:11 pm

Don't hate my premiere skillz...laugh at them:)
Forum Nublar
Webmaster and founder of
Image
User avatar
Melfina
 
Joined: 29 Jul 2002
Location: Oakland, CA

Next

Return to General AMV

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest