Which is which? OMGofmdkm

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Which is which? OMGofmdkm

Postby Tab. » Mon Jul 14, 2003 5:55 pm

as you can see, yesterday I was pleasuirng myself to the concept of having RealVideo and Ogg Vorbis audio in the same file, as well as Xvid and RealAudio in the same file.
This occasion was made possible by the awesome new format Matroska, as well as Gabset's new RealMedia directshow reader.
To celebrate, I've taken the liberty of encoding two mkv files, one with the latest XviD build and the very best settings therein, one with the latest Helix producer build and EHQ. Since these files are now indistinguishable by most usual means, I thought I would let you guys try and figure out which is which.
One of the two files below contains RealVideo and Vorbis audio. The other contains XviD and RealAudio (to make things interesting).
First, you'll need my Matroska and RealMediaSplitter Installer so you can watch mkv videos as well as realvideo in stuff like windows media player.
Second, if you don't have ogg vorbis, you'll need it
Third, if you don't have RealOne installed you won't be able to watch these, just because it's needed for the codec dlls that it installs. I'm gonna hook you guys up with a realone-less solution pretty soon, because while the player is okay now, people still bitch about it all the time.
Finally, download the two videos and open them in windows media player or whatever you like. I'd reccommend wmp6.4.

1.mkv
2.mkv

Post your best guess as to which is which, and which looks/sounds better. Both were encoded at 1024kbps video and 64kbps audio.
No cheating :?
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Postby jonmartensen » Mon Jul 14, 2003 5:58 pm

The first one is RM
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Postby EarthCurrent » Mon Jul 14, 2003 6:14 pm

Omni made my computer catch fire so I can't help you. :(
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Postby jonmartensen » Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:16 pm

EarthCurrent wrote:Omni made my computer catch fire so I can't help you. :(

What happened, really?
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:24 pm

1 is RM, 2 is XviD.
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Postby Tab. » Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:24 pm

damnit nobody is guessing
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:28 pm

argh, fuckity fuck.

The first is XviD and the second is RV9. F!^%^
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Postby jonmartensen » Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:28 pm

You have two geusses, tell the answer when you get 8-10 total. :D
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Postby Tab. » Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:29 pm

maybe
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Postby Tab. » Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:30 pm

You have two geusses, tell the answer when you get 8-10 total.


deal.
Do klinky and nme's aim guesses count?
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Postby jonmartensen » Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:49 pm

Tab. wrote:
deal.
Do klinky and nme's aim guesses count?


Sounds good, post 'em.

FIRST BOOK OF HERMES wrote:Be Pious and Religious, O my Son; for he that doth so, is the best and highest Philosopher, and without Philosophy it is impossible ever to attain to the height and exactness of Piety and Religion.


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Postby Tab. » Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:19 pm

AIM wrote:NMEAMV (7:29:15 PM): the second one
NMEAMV (7:29:17 PM): sounds better
NMEAMV (7:29:23 PM): so I'm gonna say its vorbis
NMEAMV (7:29:27 PM): and RV
Taberis 17 (7:29:37 PM): what about video
NMEAMV (7:30:06 PM): the video is pretty hard to distinguish
NMEAMV (7:30:10 PM): between the two
NMEAMV (7:30:13 PM): I need to go frame
Taberis 17 (7:30:15 PM): not for me :|
NMEAMV (7:30:15 PM): by frame
NMEAMV (7:30:20 PM): well I havent watched it
NMEAMV (7:30:23 PM): all the way through
NMEAMV (7:30:27 PM): just skipping back and forth
Taberis 17 (7:30:32 PM): no I think you just have a crappy monitor
Taberis 17 (7:30:35 PM): yeah yeah yeah
NMEAMV (7:31:47 PM): yeah
NMEAMV (7:31:52 PM): theres a definate difference
NMEAMV (7:31:55 PM): on the Xvid
NMEAMV (7:31:57 PM): from the RA
NMEAMV (7:32:02 PM): err
NMEAMV (7:32:02 PM): RV


AIM later wrote:klinky2000 (8:52:11 PM): I guessed #2 was :| real
Taberis 17 (8:52:19 PM): whyd you guess that
klinky2000 (8:52:25 PM): becuase it looked better
klinky2000 (8:52:32 PM): and you're always pushing real as looking better :P


'Fragments of the Book of Hermes', Part VII, in The Virgin of the World (1885), pp. 135-38 wrote:Trismegistos: Reality is not upon the earth, my son, and it cannot be thereon... Nothing on earth is real, there are only appearances... He [man] is not real, my son, as man. The real consists soley in itself, and remains what it is... Man is transient, therefore he is not real; he is but appearance, and appearance is the supreme illusion.

Tatios: Then the celestial bodies themselves are not real, my father, since they also vary.

Trismegistos: That which is subject to birth and change is not real... there is in them a certain falsity, seeing that they too are variable...

Tatios: And what, then, is the primordial Reality, O my father?

Trismegistos: He who is One and alone, O Tatios; He who is not made of matter, nor in any body, who has neither color nor form, who changes not, nor is transmuted, but who always Is.
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Postby jonmartensen » Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:30 pm

Vid 1 RM - Jon

Vid 2 RM - Klinky, Nick, Penis in yo' mixed drink.










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IN THE FACE


But I'm not saying either is right, wrong, or whatever :wink:
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Postby Tab. » Wed Jul 16, 2003 6:52 pm

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... 684#291684

don't feel bad jon, nick originally guessed the same, and just decided to be a pussy on the forum :wink:
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Postby NME » Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:01 pm

Score one for me. And the people who guessed similarly, but mostly me.
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