Why don't people want to stick to their own language?
- kthulhu
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- Mroni
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Ah my goddess is the correct title but when the Mr fujishima was told what it sounded like in english he expressed that he liked Oh my goddess and that's how it should be in english. Thats what animeigos liner notes say. So if Fujishima thinks that's what it should be I am in total agreement.
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- SarahtheBoring
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So many points brought up. Whew.
In general I trace these back to two tendencies:
A) "Everything About Japan Is Inherently Superior To Everything About Every Other Country Ever Existing On Earth" would cause things like people frothing at the mouth if you say "Oh! My Goddess". It was so in Japan, ergo it is Good and Right and Holy.
B) "Tripping Over My Own Language-Bound Tongue" syndrome, in which people will habitually slur or change things so that they are more pronounceable within their own speech pattern.
JUST as Japanese speakers add vowels on the ends of words borrowed from other languages so that they are more pronounceable to them, so do English-speaking translators and fans alter pronunciations like "Ryoko" so that they fit more smoothly into their speech.
The points made sort of cancel each other out, don't they? You seemed to slam people who adhere AND people who change. It's confusing. I don't understand the overarching theme between the two. O_o;
In general I trace these back to two tendencies:
A) "Everything About Japan Is Inherently Superior To Everything About Every Other Country Ever Existing On Earth" would cause things like people frothing at the mouth if you say "Oh! My Goddess". It was so in Japan, ergo it is Good and Right and Holy.
B) "Tripping Over My Own Language-Bound Tongue" syndrome, in which people will habitually slur or change things so that they are more pronounceable within their own speech pattern.
JUST as Japanese speakers add vowels on the ends of words borrowed from other languages so that they are more pronounceable to them, so do English-speaking translators and fans alter pronunciations like "Ryoko" so that they fit more smoothly into their speech.
The points made sort of cancel each other out, don't they? You seemed to slam people who adhere AND people who change. It's confusing. I don't understand the overarching theme between the two. O_o;
- The_Digital_Phoenix
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I love voice talents and I try to see if I can emulate the voice actor, and I usually can. ^_^ So I try to say things the way they are meant to be said. But sometimes it's too hard to wrap my tongue around a tricky foriegn word and I just do My best.
I say "Sa koo rah" and not "Sak' rah" (or whatever you said) and I don't say "Sa ker rah" either.
When I pronouce Akira I say "A ki rah" with almost a "D" sound before the "rah". I have heard Akira pronounce so many times that I can't tell which is correct anymore.
It bugs me to no end when people say "Po kee mon" *shudders* I say Po kay mon" which I feel is correct. But go figure I say "Di geh mon" and "Di gee mon"
In short I just try and say words the way they are supposed to be said or the way I think they are supposed to be said. And I don't care what people say 'cause all people are different and all people will say things differently.
Case in point: Take the word "Either". My whole family and all my neighbors, except my sister, all say "eether" and my sister and I say "eyether". The later would be the English pronouciation, so I have no clue as to why we would say "eyether"
OMG
OK! I'll shut up now!
No one needs to go on that long about that.
Bye!
^_^
I say "Sa koo rah" and not "Sak' rah" (or whatever you said) and I don't say "Sa ker rah" either.
When I pronouce Akira I say "A ki rah" with almost a "D" sound before the "rah". I have heard Akira pronounce so many times that I can't tell which is correct anymore.
It bugs me to no end when people say "Po kee mon" *shudders* I say Po kay mon" which I feel is correct. But go figure I say "Di geh mon" and "Di gee mon"
In short I just try and say words the way they are supposed to be said or the way I think they are supposed to be said. And I don't care what people say 'cause all people are different and all people will say things differently.
Case in point: Take the word "Either". My whole family and all my neighbors, except my sister, all say "eether" and my sister and I say "eyether". The later would be the English pronouciation, so I have no clue as to why we would say "eyether"
OMG
OK! I'll shut up now!
No one needs to go on that long about that.
Bye!
^_^
- rurouni_trelane
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Re: Why don't people want to stick to their own language?
This is mostly only the case in Southern Japan, especially Okinawa. It's hilarious listening to a man from Okinawa trying to say "Relax." It comes out "dedax."UncleMilo wrote: Ry, as in Ryoko and Ryu, is pronounced with a very quick "d" sound.
To say Ryu, you say the word "you" as if there was a quick "d" in front of it ... like dyou.
Ryoko, if you listen closely, is pronounced dyoko... again with a very quick d.
This is distinctive of someone from Tokyo. The Tokyo accent tends to drop vowels, especially U's. Although the entire country tends to drop the U on the end of "desu".UncleMilo wrote: and sometimes, U is ignored.
Sakura is pronounced Sak'ra just as Asuka is pronounced As'ka.
Oh, and the japanese R and the japanese L are pretty much pronounced the same way: a mix of the two.
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- Flint the Dwarf
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BigName I wasn't really concerned at all about the meaning of the song. If you'll note, I simply quoted the lyrics. And it really was just a comical quotation not really meant to drive my point or anything like that.
Kusoyaro: We don't need a leader. We need to SHUT UP. Make what you want to make, don't make you what you don't want to make. If neither of those applies to you, then you need to SHUT UP MORE.