AVIsynth... why oh why....

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AVIsynth... why oh why....

Postby Yogurtron » Fri Aug 09, 2002 1:20 am

Tell me.. does 2+2=3 SOMETIMES?
I used the guide Ermac wrote to make Premiere use my DVD files. It worked perfectly. Then, I went down to Best Buy, to get a DVD I wanted (Evangelion: Death and rebirth, btw), and also saw this nice, 80gb rather cheap HD. I bought it, and put it in this computer, and did a little drive swapping.
As far as the directory settings are concerned, my AVIsynth files are in the same place... yet when i try to load them, it says
"Unrecognized Exception!
(D:\dvdpath\filename.avs, line 2)"
I've looked and looked again, it has the correct filename, there are no spaces, and i made a new DV2 file, so either i've got a DVD2AVI throwing out corrupted files (btw, i use dvd2avi 1.76 too)..... or my comp just hates me....
So, in the end, i got it working before, then i did some reformatting, and now am trying to do it again, and it doesn't work..... any guesses?
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Postby jbone » Fri Aug 09, 2002 10:10 am

Did you change the drive letter or any part of the path of your D2V files?

The D2V files are directory-specific, just like the AVS files are. If you've moved them to another drive, all you can do is either remake them or swap the drives' letters (assuming you're using 2k/XP).

It surprises me that the first thing you tried was a format... if you're using the same files as last time, formatting was just a complete waste of time.
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Postby Yogurtron » Fri Aug 09, 2002 10:45 am

I didn't attempt a reformat to fix it. Here's what that was for.
I previously had this computer with 2 HDs, one 15gig, which was my primary HD with windows on it. And then I had a 40gig one, that was for storage. I just got an 80GB HD, so what i did was take my 15gig one out, put my 40gig one in its place as the primary, and put the 80gig one in as my secondary. Before removing the first one, i coppied all of my data from teh 40gig one to the 80 gig one. THen, I reformatted the 40gig one, and gave it winxp and so on.
The whole deal there worked before that reformat. I tried to set it up the same way after that reformat and it didn't work. Anyway, all of the D2V and AVS files and whatnot were made on the 40gig HD when it was the D drive. They are now on the 80gig one which is now the D drive.
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Postby jbone » Fri Aug 09, 2002 10:50 am

Have you tried remaking all the D2V files? And are all of your VOBs in teh same place as before?

And did you remember to reinstall the latest versions of both AVISynth and the Premiere AVISYnth plugin?
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Postby Yogurtron » Fri Aug 09, 2002 1:54 pm

I just tried with a newly ripped DVD, and made it a new D2V file... that didn't work. The VOBs for the others are in the same place. And I just installed the newest version of AVISynth (2.04 or something like that).
And it still doesn't work :shock:
.... so I'm still stuck.... any more ideas?
::prays to the god of video editting that this works again::
(that's all i can think of to do, now)
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Postby klinky » Fri Aug 09, 2002 2:07 pm

post the avs script... I don't know man ;) if everything is installed properly and all..

Then :roll:


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Postby Yogurtron » Fri Aug 09, 2002 11:33 pm

AVS Script:
LoadPlugin("D:\dvdcode\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.DLL")
MPEG2Source("D:\EVANGELION\eva1stuf.d2v")
LoadPlugin("D:\dvdcode\decomb38\Decomb.dll")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)


And there it is, in all it's glory. That is the correct path to it all, unless it's case sensitive, so that DLL on MPEG2DEC.DLL might be lower case, but I've tried that too on another file.

The ONLY thing that's different between this time, and the first time I tried this... is that I haven't installed the stuff that came with my DVD drive (their DVD playing program, and maybe drivers (but this is XP, so i didn't think those were too necessary for a rather old drive). ANyway.... I don't think that would affect it, because it's using the MPEG2DEC.DLL as the decoder I thought... but for the heck of it, I'll try it... once I can find the blasted disc.

This is oh quite quite QUITE annoying.... i don't want to have to change these files to AVIs or MPEGs before I do the video, so that i can actually work on this.... ::Aims his arm-mounted cannon barrel at the insubordinate comuter, but holds his fire::
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Postby jbone » Fri Aug 09, 2002 11:44 pm

Have you isntalled Huffyuv?
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Postby Yogurtron » Sat Aug 10, 2002 12:33 am

I thought I did, and just to be sure, I just messed with Xmpeg, and it made sure it was installed (it's the first place I saw that i had HuffYUV before the reformatting, so i decided i'd look for it there first ,and try encoding something).

Anyway, so yeah, I do have HuffYUV.
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Postby Yogurtron » Sat Aug 10, 2002 12:34 am

Something I just remembered:
Is there some conflict that AVI synth will have with windows XP? i've heard rumor of that. Would 98se be more compatible?
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Postby klinky » Sat Aug 10, 2002 12:43 am

xp should work fine.



works for me ;)


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Postby Yogurtron » Sat Aug 10, 2002 3:35 am

Okay, i think the crisis has finally been averted. After hearing about it, and messign with it for a while, i've gotten VFAPI frameserving to work... Seems to work just as well..... if not better than AVIsynth.. i believe. Anyway, thanks for the help guys.
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Postby ErMaC » Sat Aug 10, 2002 3:47 am

It doesn't work better - you'll be far better getting AVISynth to work. Here's why:

1) You can only have one VFAPI file open at a time - try to open more than one and you're asking for crashes and mess ups.
2) It's less stable. AVISynth is far less crash prone.
3) It's slower. AVISynth's method is faster and doesn't go through any color conversions on the way to Premiere.
4) Sometimes it's not frame accurate. The first time I tried the VFAPI method I did not get the same results that I did with AVISynth. I never could figure out why, but due to the other shortcomings of the VFAPI method I never looked into it any further.
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Postby Yogurtron » Sat Aug 10, 2002 11:33 am

Well, the reason I said it might even be better was that when i put it in premiere, it seemed to let me preview the clip in realtime, it appered, and with AVIsynth I could never hope that until i made the preview files. ...... what in the.... I jsut went back to Adobe premiere to check about that 2 VFAPI in one project idea..... and i just looked at one of my "broken" AVS files... and now it works? I.... I'm astonished..... It didn't work at all... then i got VFAPI working.. and now AVIsynth works? That's just funky.
Okay, but I do have one problem with AVIsynth that becomes readily apparant again. Occasionally, certain colors will come out far different than what they should be. Example:
On this clip, it's where Asuka is fighting Zuriel. The slicing arm thing is coming right at EVA 02's head. The camera zooms into Asuka's eye. Now the problem I see is that when it zooms in on Asuka's Eye, most of it is normal human eye shad of blue. However at each frame, a different portion of they eye is shown as a really really light blue (and it changes each frame, and is quite blocky. Why is it showing such weird discoloration, and is there any way to stop that?
(btw, it also shows it at other places, but that's the one i notice the most)
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