What makes a video re-viewable?

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What makes a video re-viewable?

Postby Sierra Lorna » Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:11 pm

I've been puzzling over this for a long time now. My videos are all somewhat lacking when it comes to the re-viewable factor, and I just can't figure out why. What is it that makes you want to loop a video all the time anyway? (Action sync, length, style, etc?)

Anyone have any idea?
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Postby Petro » Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:19 pm

If it's an absolutely amazing video then you'll wanna loop it. I looped Kevin Caldwell's "Believe" video the first time I saw it. ^^

What makes you want to watch an anime again? or listen to a song again? or watch a movie again? It's basically the same thing - and it depends on the person.
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Postby Sierra Lorna » Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:29 pm

So if a video is good, it's automatically re-viewable?
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Postby turboneko » Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:38 pm

Re-viewable is the most subjective thing when comes to an AMV (but basically everything). There is really no "magic formula" to make a video more or less reviewable.
For me shorter length, a catchy song, a moody video done with an anime I love are all positive points... but, as I said, this is just "me" :P
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Postby mexicanjunior » Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:55 pm

Normally, it's the song that keeps me rewatching an AMV. The video itself could be wonderfully edited but if I don't like the song, I probably won't watch it too often.
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Postby Blackheartstar » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:04 pm

mexicanjunior wrote:Normally, it's the song that keeps me rewatching an AMV. The video itself could be wonderfully edited but if I don't like the song, I probably won't watch it too often.


Im the exact opposite of what you just discribed. If I dont like the song but the editing is great Ill watch it over and over, but good editing doesnt always lead to rewatchablity.

Rewatchability is one of them weird things kinda like people who have charisma theirs just something about them that draws you in.
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Postby priuscomet » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:16 pm

yeah, usually what makes me keep a vid on loop is if its a totally great vid. the flow is smooth, editing was nice and clean, the music is bumping, everything bout the vid just...rocks. its hard to fill that position for a mass of people becuase everyone has their own different taste on what vids they like. usually, i dont' worry too much bout the re-viewability factor.
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Postby You choose Sam,the rest » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:44 pm

Sierra Lorna wrote:So if a video is good, it's automatically re-viewable?


Not really, I never found a video that made me watch it over and over again. Well only one video and that was your Cheerleader one. That is about the only video I watched over again and the only video on my list of fave amv's.
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Postby priuscomet » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:59 pm

actually, when i review a vid, i usually keep the vid on loop so i'll see the vid over and over and hear the song over and over to get a general feel for the vid. i usually grade the effort, reviewability, and overall scores last. this helps me determin if i like the vid and willing to keep it to watch it more. if i dont' really like the vid...i usually dump it after i post a review on it. heh.
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Postby Castor Troy » Fri Aug 09, 2002 8:25 pm

Sierra Lorna wrote:So if a video is good, it's automatically re-viewable?


I dunno, "Odokirwhatever" and "Total waste of 6 min 35 secs" were great videos but severy lack replay value in my opinion...
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Postby Castor Troy » Fri Aug 09, 2002 8:27 pm

"Odorikuruu"

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Postby Wyverex » Fri Aug 09, 2002 8:34 pm

I looped Believe and Former Glory (Fluxmeister) several times...

Believe cause it's just the best AMV i've ever seen and Former Glory cause it's incredibly COOL!
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Fri Aug 09, 2002 9:15 pm

Yeah I agree with MJ. But there's more than that too. I think a big part of reviewablity-ness is in action-sync and video flow. Comedy also makes a video reviewable if it's good. "Senshi on Springer" is definately reviewable, just not loop style. Like once every other day. The pace of the video should be relatively faster, but not in all cases. It has to match the song though.

For example, rubyeye's "Princess of the Wind" video was very well synced and edited but the song's slowness and length of the video makes it hard to sit through more than, say, 6 or 7 times.

My personal favorite of Kevin Caldwell's is his "Sleep Now" vid and that is extremely well synced (as good as "Believe") ans pretty short.

So, yes, length has some influence but some vids can be really long and still reviewable.
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Postby VegettoEX » Fri Aug 09, 2002 10:10 pm

To me, a video is "re-viewable" if there's something more to it, something beneath the surface. Scott brings up this example a lot, so it's stuck in my head, but Kevin Caldwell's "Believe" is one of the best examples. Sure, it's got phenomenal editing and it's just an all-around great video, but the more you watch it, the more you see beneath the surface. I haven't actually watched the series (OK, I saw two eps. of the TV series), but I come to find out that the image the main character keeps having of this woman is her mother, and that her mother was some kind of idol to her. You don't NEED to see the OVA/series to get something out of this, but it takes a few times through to really get a full sense of what Kevin was doing.

The first time, you go "Oooohhh." The second time you go, "Wow...". The third time, you're speechless and in tears.

Vlad's "Memories Dance" (sorry, d00d, we always bring you up ^^) is another perfect example of this. The first time through I was paying attention to the scenes used. The second time through I was paying attention to the study of motion put into effect. The third time through I was paying attention to the distinct "sections" of the video (male / female / animal / etc).

A video can be GOOD and you can "watch it again," but what I see as "re-viewable" is a video that tells me a new story each time I come back to it, and one that hardly loses its initial impact down the road (possibly gaining, as in these examples, MORE impact).
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IT'S THE SONG!

Postby OmniStrata » Fri Aug 09, 2002 11:52 pm

There is KNOWN FACT that the song can carry a video. But excellent editing helps too.

Should the formula be perfect, you will have a proven combo that will satisfy ALL comers.

The vid itself needs to be stellar in music first for me. If I like the song, review goes sky-high.

In the final word, one video has proven time and again, over 290 times to be exact, that there IS a way to make a video so damn reviewable that people who dislike the song itself like the video!

Some people I know who hate anime love Odorikuruu!

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