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Postby Jace Tsunami » Thu May 29, 2003 12:00 am

all those punks bands that are questionable to any extent go under punk rock. Dude, thousands of people know this. I'm not the one that categorized anything. This is what it's called.

If you don't like it, can't really help you there. Just the way it is. =/
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Postby Farlo » Thu May 29, 2003 12:05 am

first off...just fuckin with you, second off...if its not political, and its being called punk, then it is wrong and should go under the generic rock catagory =\
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Postby Jace Tsunami » Thu May 29, 2003 12:09 am

but punk is about singing against athority. Athority isn't always the government. In better peacefull times, a lot of bands bitch about their parents, their school, the media. Goldfinger has some great lyrics, tho they mainly sing about the media and propoganda. But then again some bands like NOFX and SUM 41 are still able to sing about politics.

It all really just depends on who ticks who off.

but, it doesn't have to be political.
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Postby moooooo » Thu May 29, 2003 12:11 am

Jace Tsunami wrote:all those punks bands that are questionable to any extent go under punk rock. Dude, thousands of people know this. I'm not the one that categorized anything. This is what it's called.

If you don't like it, can't really help you there. Just the way it is. =/


In my whole life, I've never heard of a single person try and say that Punk and Punk Rock are two entirely seperate entities based on time periods no less. I guess us new yorkers just aren't hip :roll:

Seriously, don't you find it a little absurd that you have every band placed nicely into categories, and correct people as such when they don't agree with your specific categorizations. Hardcore, hardcore punk, pop punk, real punk, punk, punk rock...these are all terms that you used in this thread, yet almost all of the bands you listed sound exactly the same, but they have all different labels.

On a completly different note, does anyone else notice that whenever people talk about Punk, they go from the Sex Pistols, and then right to this 90's garbage, and skip about 20 years worth of amazing stuff. Just an observation.
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Postby Jace Tsunami » Thu May 29, 2003 12:19 am

punk, punk rock, and pop punk is all there is. If I sad hardcore punk or something I wasn't classifying anything, I was describing it. there are some band sin the punk rock category that are pretty hard, as to why I would use such an adjective :?

You're just looking for an argument, you'd have to be pretty dumb to not understand the stuff I've bee saying. It's fairly simple, and I've been going into far mroe detail than I need to.
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Postby shadow-the-hedgehog » Thu May 29, 2003 5:21 am

Sum 41 is POLITICAL?
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Postby Jace Tsunami » Thu May 29, 2003 12:07 pm

no, I wouldn't classify them as that. But they sing about government, terrorism, and shit like that in a few songs. They're definetly not all political tho, they just have a few songs is all.
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Postby Farlo » Thu May 29, 2003 3:18 pm

jace go listen to punk of the 70's/80's. listen to the lyrics.
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Postby Jace Tsunami » Thu May 29, 2003 3:21 pm

I know the diffrence, I'm just saying it doesn't HAVE to be political to be punk
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Postby Farlo » Thu May 29, 2003 3:22 pm

who the hell said that??
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Postby Jace Tsunami » Thu May 29, 2003 3:25 pm

el_farlo wrote:first off...just fuckin with you, second off...if its not political, and its being called punk, then it is wrong and should go under the generic rock catagory =\
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Postby shadow-the-hedgehog » Thu May 29, 2003 3:48 pm

Jace Tsunami wrote:no, I wouldn't classify them as that. But they sing about government, terrorism, and shit like that in a few songs. They're definetly not all political tho, they just have a few songs is all.


o_0 Which songs?
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Postby Farlo » Thu May 29, 2003 4:11 pm

Jace Tsunami wrote:I know the diffrence, I'm just saying it doesn't HAVE to be political to be punk


you missed what i was trying to say jace....it DOES have to be polical....
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Postby Jace Tsunami » Thu May 29, 2003 4:17 pm

no, it really doesn't.
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Postby Farlo » Thu May 29, 2003 4:20 pm

GO AND LISTEN TO PUNK CIRCA 70/80 then try to defend new pseudo punk
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