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Postby Kitty_Dog » Sun Apr 06, 2003 9:23 am

i need to try and make my videos smaller, i use a compressor when i export it from premiere, but it's usally about 50mb, so i use TMPGEnc which makes it to about 30mb, is there anything that is free that is better than TMPGEnc that would make my videos about 10mb?

Please help me :cry:
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Postby Zarxrax » Sun Apr 06, 2003 10:52 am

Dont compress your video out of premiere and then AGAIN. Export it from premiere either Uncompressed, or using Huffyuv. Encode your video using RealMedia9, you can get it looking quite nice at 10mb.
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Postby Kitty_Dog » Sun Apr 06, 2003 2:18 pm

has anyone got a direct link to a site where I can download realmedia 9???? :cry:
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Sun Apr 06, 2003 11:50 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Dont compress your video out of premiere and then AGAIN. Export it from premiere either Uncompressed, or using Huffyuv. Encode your video using RealMedia9, you can get it looking quite nice at 10mb.


Ack!! Thats what I've been doing, at 100% quality DivX (or XviD, was it XviD?? I think it was...)

Aww poopy. next time round i'll use the huffyuv method.

That said, my vids are still ok..... I hope..... :cry:
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Sun Apr 06, 2003 11:56 pm

Helix Producer Basic

Anyway, any compressor can make it 10 mb, it's your job to set the bitrate of the encode. Higher bits per second = larger file (and better quality). You just have to figure out how to change the settings to what you want.
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Postby kearlywi » Wed Apr 09, 2003 3:46 am

Heres the url for downloading realmedia (aka Helix Producer Basic 9, at least according to some other website)

http://proforma.real.com/rnforms/produc ... index.html
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Just fill out the basic info hit download now. This is a free evaluation version and it kinda sux. As far as I can tell you CAN'T modify the quality or size of the file, you just gotta take what it gives ya.

This program converted my 234 mb dvd rip (25 mins, avi) into a nice 11 mb file (same length, avi). Only problem with it was it only shrunk my file, it didnt convert it to a .rm (.rm means "real media" file and can only be played on realOne players as far as I can tell. The final product was terrible quality, maybe 5% of the original quality.

Anyways if u can stand really nasty quality by all means try this. If anyone knows how to use version 9.0.1 better than me plz post tips on how to up the quality (the free version has most configurations disabled).
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Postby kearlywi » Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:14 am

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PLZ DISREGARD MY PREVIOUS MSG!!! :oops:
Helix Producer Basic 9.0.1 DOES NOT = REAL MEDIA.
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Instead plz try Real Producer 8.0 or 8.5. (both available rdy to download at this url.)

http://www.soft-ware.net/internet/publi ... /index.asp

I havent tried using real producer yet but ive read good things. Ill post again after trying it out.
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Postby Ashton » Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:29 am

K, now I'm confused.
Helix 9 isn't a real media producer? o_O
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:54 pm

o.O

kearly seems very confused.

Helix Producer Basic is the encoder GUI for RealVideo 9 :\
RV9's quality = :up:

I posted the link to that in my last post.

Real Producer 8 is the old realproducer to make rv8 content.

The RealMedia format can be read by a few players including Realone, Media Player Classic, and something like UltraPlayer or something.


25 mins @ 11mb = 60 kbps o.O
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Postby kearlywi » Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:46 pm

Sorry about the confusion. What radical edo said was right, altho i have yet to get decent quality from the evaluation version of helix 9.0. However it is true that it takes a 25 min episode and crams it down to 11 mb! @_@
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Postby kearlywi » Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:56 pm

RadicalEd0 wrote:o.O

kearly seems very confused.

25 mins @ 11mb = 60 kbps o.O


:oops:

does a bitrate of 60 actually have decent quality? i did a compression with 120 kbps once and it looked terrible (not with helix 9.0 tho).
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Postby Zarxrax » Wed Apr 09, 2003 9:07 pm

No, its not possible to get decent quality from 60kbit! You have to actually use a decent bitrate if you want to get good quality.
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Wed Apr 09, 2003 9:25 pm

decent bitrate = 400 - 1000 kbps
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Postby the Black Monarch » Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:56 pm

For me, "decent bitrate" is 1024-2048 Kbits/sec, with Gaussian Blur if my footage is live-action or CGI and without it if my footage is cel animation. Live-action footage at 2048 Kbits/sec with Gaussian Blur looks godly! Well, animation at the same bitrate with Gaussian Blur also looks godly, but it has much bigger filesizes. For some reason, Gaussian Blur decreases live-action filesizes by 33%, but increases animation filesizes by 50%! Ergo, I only use Gauss for live-action footage and not animation.
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:09 pm

Gaussian Blur looks godly?

God must have truly shit eyesight.
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