Original Japanese or US-dub DVDs better?

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Original Japanese or US-dub DVDs better?

Postby Bushido Philosopher » Sun Mar 23, 2003 2:09 am

Ran into a little dillemma this weeekend.

I saw this Cowboy Bebop series DVD set. The store was selling it for $45.00. You hear me, $45 for the WHOLE series. My immediate reaction was to grab it and rush to the register, but then something else later popped into mind.

Does the US version have something that this doesn't???

Then I thought maybe textless and promos that were on the US version would not be in these. The English track I could care less about since I would only want the original voices. There were english subtitles so that was good. Plus these were all encoded under the almighty "ALL" DVD region. But then there was that odd-looking "copy" icon with a red slash through it, obviously meaning anti-copy protection. So I thought maybe there would be complications ripping it.

So all things considered, what would be better: buy this box-set, or get the US version collection?

Also please clarify the unknowns for me if you can.
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Postby iserlohn » Sun Mar 23, 2003 3:07 am

How about the US version is legal and the set you saw isn't?

Besides the fact that that particular set is a bootleg, I've seen screencaps and they're pretty piss-poor for most of the episodes (and if you talk to certain people who've done AMV's with Bebop they'll let you know just how screwy the R1 encode already was). In this case, you get what you pay for, buy the R1...and listen to the dub, it's one of the best ever made. Even die hard sub fans say it rivals the Japanese at times.
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Postby Bushido Philosopher » Sun Mar 23, 2003 12:54 pm

wow, bootlegs are getting harder to spot....
then again, I've never actually seen a legit Japanese and a bootleg before.
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Postby Ashton » Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:46 am

Ko Oh Yoku wrote:wow, bootlegs are getting harder to spot....
then again, I've never actually seen a legit Japanese and a bootleg before.

I own both. :cry:
This is not something I am proud of (well, my 5 R2 DVDs kick ass, but the bootleg... you get the point)
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Postby EarthCurrent » Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:40 am

Are you certain that what you saw was not the Cowboy Bebop - The Perfect Sessions (Limited Edition Complete Series Boxed Set)?
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Postby NME » Mon Mar 24, 2003 2:20 am

Dude, think here.

If its for 45 its not legit. Unless the pricer has been sniffing some shit.
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Postby Bushido Philosopher » Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:17 pm

earthcurrent wrote:Are you certain that what you saw was not the Cowboy Bebop - The Perfect Sessions (Limited Edition Complete Series Boxed Set)?


Well it was something. It looked pretty legit to me. I've never seen any foreign and/or legit covers before so that's why I was skeptical to get it. Had all the stats on the back like:

DVD9 x 5
ALL region
Japanese stereo
Subtitles: 1. Chinese, 2. English

I must have looked at it for a good hour trying to figure it out. I've seen others with this same fomatting on the back from the Ah! My Goddess Movie to Rurouni Kenshin OAVs. If someone could give me a pic of what a legit and bootleg covers look like then please tell me.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:31 pm

It's a bootleg.

Usually, you won't see double-sided double-layered (9GB disks) for R1 releases, besides the fact that it's got an all region coding and chinese / english subtitles.
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Postby ErMaC » Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:34 pm

#1 Rule of thumb - if it has Chinese ANYTHING on it, it's bootleg.

Japanese Anime releases NEVER have Chinese subs, nor do US ones, so either it's one of the very small number of legitimate Region 3 releases, or it's a bootleg.
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Postby Dannywilson » Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:32 am

The only bootleg I've found that is worth it's salt is the 2 disc Hellsing set. The animation was clean, the subs were well translated, and the packaging was EXTREMELY well done. Sadly I also have the R1's and the differences are noticeable... but then again I detest the english voices they used for Hellsing... The dub alone of cowboy bebop is worth the extra cash... it is quite good im my opinion, ranking up there with Trigun and Golden Boy.
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Postby NME » Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:41 am

Aie, tis good. I don't like the added swearing though. If its not in there in the Japanese, it really shouldn't be there in the English. I know the Hellsing isn't exempt of swearing I just think I remember some swearing in there that wasn't in the subs.
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Postby Dannywilson » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:53 pm

Yeah, most of the swearing done by alexander anderson in the dub wasn't in his original lines... it bugs me for some reason... What I find funny, is in Ranma 1/2, Ranma is constantly swearing, but none of it got translated into the subs or dubs. You can catch it if you know a little japanese.
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Postby The Wired Knight » Tue Mar 25, 2003 9:07 pm

Key signs of a bootleg

Chinese
Hong Kong
Taiwan
(Mysterious absence of the word extras)
Shoddly made box and DVD menus

Often these bootlegs are nothing more than VCDs being passed off as DVDs and are VASTLY inferior to their region 1 counterparts.
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Postby Bushido Philosopher » Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:00 am

Hmm... Well thanks guys. Now I know.

But I still would like to see a pic of a legit Region 2 if anyone knows where I can see one.
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Postby Keaton » Fri Mar 28, 2003 7:28 pm

I LIKE DUB CAUSE U DONT HAVE 2 READ, U CAN WATCH THE SHOW. i'M STARTING 2 LEARN THE LANGUAGE FROM WATCHING 2 MANY SUB'S. i HATE THOU WEN THE DUB IS SCREWED UP AND THE SOUND IS LIKE 5 SECONDS BEFOR THE VID
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