Subtitle method in TMPGEnc?

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Subtitle method in TMPGEnc?

Postby Bushido Philosopher » Sat Mar 01, 2003 7:03 pm

Does anyone know a way that I can get VobSub or something similar into TMPGEnc?

I've already tried frameserving from VirtualDub but it gives me this error saying that VobSub can't load into it.

You see, I wanna get the subtitles from the IFO file into the actual video encoding. The reason I want to get it into TMGEnc is because its settings are in my opinion much more fine-tuned than VDub's.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sat Mar 01, 2003 8:54 pm

Subs aren't contained in the IFO files first of all. They're in the actual VOBs, the IFO just gives timing information I believe.
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Postby Bushido Philosopher » Sat Mar 01, 2003 11:21 pm

i love these people....
give ya advice, but dont answer the question.

hehe, sorry wolf. i'm really apreciative. but i just got back from threads where they basuically have long ways of saying just "yup, i agree."
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Postby Zarxrax » Sat Mar 01, 2003 11:25 pm

You can use Avisynth.
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Postby FurryCurry » Sat Mar 01, 2003 11:25 pm

What exactly are you trying to do? Burn hardsubs onto some video, and then encode it to mpeg 1 or 2?

There's probably a more elegant way, using avisynth to read the sub tracks or somesuch, but what I'd do is use vdub & vobsub(or whatever that plugin is that reads DVD style sub tracks), and encode to a huffYUV file, then use that as source for TMpegEnc.
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Postby Bushido Philosopher » Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:35 am

OK here's the deal:

I want to DVD-Rip a video, then add the subtitles from the VOBs to the video, then output it to something like DivX or XviD.

And AVISynth?? Er...can you tell me what to do..? I really don't have good luck understanding that scripting. Can ya give me an example?
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:38 am

1) Get Subrip from Doom9.org.
2) Rip the subs from the DVD.
3) Export the subs from Subrip to an SSA script.
4) Find the Subtitle Importer from Doom9 for VirtualDub
5) Encode the video with subs in VirtualDub to a HuffYUV
6) Take the HuffYUV through TMPGEnc and encode

There, problem solved.
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Postby Zarxrax » Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:52 am

You want a divx or avi?? The DONT use TMPGenc!! That is designed for making mpegs, not avis! You should use avisynth and virtualdub for this type of thing.
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Sun Mar 02, 2003 1:12 am

Indeed. Not only that but ndw's method would require like 2 bazillion gb of space :| instead either use virtualdub's frameserver or a better idea is to use the avisynth plugin for vobsub. Thats IF you were using tmpg, but to encode to avi youd need to use vdub.

Avs isnt really that complicated, it looks hard to understand, but it isnt really. All you need to do is A. open the vob through dvd2avi's project file using mpeg2source("location.d2v"), B. IVTC or deinterlace using Decomb's Telecide() and Decimate() (for ivtc at least), C. resize using something like Bicubicresize(640,480), D. overlay the subs. I dunno how to use vobsub for avisynth since I've never hardsubbed :\ but im sure theres info on it sumwhere on google.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Mar 02, 2003 1:23 am

My method doesn't take much space. Only enough for the VOBs and the HuffYUVs. And I mentioned TMPGEnc because he mentioned it.
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Sun Mar 02, 2003 1:28 am

2 hr dvd * huffyuv = 49 gb :|
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Postby Bushido Philosopher » Tue Mar 04, 2003 3:30 am

RadicalEd0 wrote:Avs isnt really that complicated, it looks hard to understand, but it isnt really. All you need to do is A. open the vob through dvd2avi's project file using mpeg2source("location.d2v"), B. IVTC or deinterlace using Decomb's Telecide() and Decimate() (for ivtc at least), C. resize using something like Bicubicresize(640,480), D. overlay the subs. I dunno how to use vobsub for avisynth since I've never hardsubbed :\ but im sure theres info on it sumwhere on google.


well yah i know what to do, just that i can never remember things like LoadPlugin or MPEG2Source or cpu=4 or iDCT.........
...........oh. er nm. wow do i feel embarassed. :oops:

Anyway, yah I guess VirtualDub is better, but I just like TMPGEnc's interface better. Ionno. The thing is though I can never be happy with the quality and the filesize for the final output. I either have to sacrafice one or the other right (no matter how good XviD or such is)?
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Tue Mar 04, 2003 3:47 am

RadicalEd0 wrote:2 hr dvd * huffyuv = 49 gb :|


Fuckin told!!

Hey NDW, Edo has a point. Hmm, now what was it? o yes....

49gb is way too much, even on a 120 gb hard drive!!

But you already knew that, right?? :roll:
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