Audio remixing software suggestions/help

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Audio remixing software suggestions/help

Postby merrow » Sun Jul 28, 2002 3:34 pm

I have a song that really needs to be edited down. I tried following AD's audio guide (which I've recently lost the link to...anyone know where it is?) but the little program I got from there just isn't robust enough for what I want to do.

Some software names I've heard bandied about are (I think) cooledit, and soundforge can anyone give me some plus or minuses on use? I don't mind pay programs I'm willing to go up to about $200 if I can find a program I can actually use. I should mention here that I am music stupid so a program with heavy hand holding wouldn't go amiss. (Hand holding meaning good manual, help files, or website...I don't expect a program where I push a magic button and it just works.)

Conversely, I'm also willing to trade services if someone wants to barter. I'm pretty good with photoshop, illustrator...I don't mind trading something tedious like masking out (or in) a character from a scene frame by frame or creating some custom effect for a video you may be working on.

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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Sun Jul 28, 2002 3:40 pm

*points to link below*

8)

As for which pay program to use... I'm not really the best person to ask as I dont really use them enough to give you a good roundup of all the features.

ErMaC has done a lot of his own mixes so he'd be the man I'd suggest asking.

As for Cooledit and Soundforge, they both have demo versions available so you can try before you buy. I've used them both and I like them both but I'm not sure exactly what extent of editing you want so... I best leave the recommendations to others.
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Postby merrow » Mon Jul 29, 2002 1:00 am

Thanks for the link, I've got it safely bookmarked now.

Perhaps it would help to give a little detail in to what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to edit down the song "I want you to want me." (The Letters to Cleo version, not the Cheap Trick version). The lyrics in this song are very repetitive so I'd like to cut out some of the repetitions. It's fine for the first 1:50, then it repeats two lyrical lines over and over interspersed with a couple of guitar solos. At 2:40 it picks up again.

What I'd like to do is edit out the part from 1:51 to 2:39 but not have it sound like I hacked a big chunk out of the middle.

I'd just post up an mp3, but my bandwith is shaving close to the edge. If anyone wants to hear the song, just email or aim me and I'll send you a copy.

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Postby ShonenDizzyCow » Mon Jul 29, 2002 2:22 am

Believe it or not (but I'm guessing you've not seen my videos before, no biggie), almost all my videos have edited audio tracks.

And lo and behold I use nothing more than the mightly Premiere!

It's quite suited for the task really. A lot of people don't notice a lot of the audio/song edits I do in my videos, and I even got some request for the mp3 versions of the 'original remix' of the song that I made via premiere for the video, as they even prefer it over the orignal versions. :D

It can be done.
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Postby merrow » Mon Jul 29, 2002 2:54 am

Actually, I *did* try that. I noticed the multiple audio tracks and the rubberband options (volume fade and pan to right and left audio) and tried playing around with them a bit. It did not work well. It still sounded like I just hacked out a bit from the middle. I tried cutting, pasting, fading in and out, overlapping...and quite a few combinations of the latter. It just sounds...bad.

From your experience...and tips or tricks to suggest to smooth it along?

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Postby ShonenDizzyCow » Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:25 am

Well it mostly involves overlapping 2 tracks with the proper fades (that maintains a consistant volume) and just play it by ear at the 1 frame scale for maximum accuracy.

The biggest 'trick' I guess would be finding the right moment to cut the song.
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Postby ShonenDizzyCow » Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:46 am

Oh, and playing with the rubberbands of the audio levels are essential, at least for me.

If you are curious or wanted examples of Premiere audio editing, feel free to investigate the following videos from my profile link below and see if you can detect where I did the cuts.....

Evangelion Opus (cutting between 2 versions of the same song)
The Final Wanderers
Tekken Party
A Less Serious Parasite
Resident Eva (Trailer audio track edit)

They all have from 2-3 cuts each.

Bandwidth premitting, of course.
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