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Postby CaTaClYsM » Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:13 pm

no, I'm seriouis, I would definetly get one, but the 300 buck price tag or however much they want is too steep for another 80 lines or resolution. point be to a 100 buck DVD RW drive and I'm there!
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Postby Mr Pilkington » Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:15 pm

You totally missed the whole point behind my rant.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:16 pm

Mr Pilkington wrote:You totally missed the whole point behind my rant.

so your point was not for me to get a DVD RW, it was "not to get a beta". I see... so klinky's 60 dollar VHS is ok, but the 70 buck beta is too expensive?
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby Mr Pilkington » Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:20 pm

Case in point! I retire my arguments. Futility is not exactly my favorite pastime.
No matter what anyone says or does you will bend the facts in order to justify your means, so I say do so. Have fun. Be free young one.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:23 pm

Mr Pilkington wrote:Case in point! I retire my arguments. Futility is not exactly my favorite pastime.
No matter what anyone says or does you will bend the facts in order to justify your means, so I say do so. Have fun. Be free young one.

no seriously, explain to me why 10 bucks more for a beta tape player that has 150 lines more of resolution, and tapes that last 20 years is too much when I could get a 60 dollar VCR with 250 lines of resolution and tapes that look like crap if they arent recorded in SP?

seriously, explain it.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:27 pm

oh, and I havent had to do any 'fact bending' as you like to call it. I leave the facts alone, they are working just fine the way they are.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby Ashyukun » Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:51 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:no seriously, explain to me why 10 bucks more for a beta tape player that has 150 lines more of resolution, and tapes that last 20 years is too much when I could get a 60 dollar VCR with 250 lines of resolution and tapes that look like crap if they arent recorded in SP?

seriously, explain it.


I would probably say the main reason I would choose a VHS deck at the moment would be that I'd need to have one anyways to be able to borrow or record tapes from or for friends. If you already have a VHS that can be used for these purposes, or either don't intend to ever borrow or lend tapes to friends or only have friends with Betas (or, don't have any friends to start with), then buy whatever you want. It's your money (presumably), and I'm sure who or wherever is selling the Beta will be happy to have your money.

Also, though I'm not totally sure on my facts on this one, isn't 250 lines (assuming we're talking horizontal lines) more than NTSC TVs will display anyways? And I'd figure the Beta wouldn't have a S-VHS output (simply given the name) to output to a higher-res capable HDTV. If I'm wrong, I've learned yet another thing today :wink:
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:51 pm

Ashyukun wrote:
CaTaClYsM wrote:no seriously, explain to me why 10 bucks more for a beta tape player that has 150 lines more of resolution, and tapes that last 20 years is too much when I could get a 60 dollar VCR with 250 lines of resolution and tapes that look like crap if they arent recorded in SP?

seriously, explain it.


I would probably say the main reason I would choose a VHS deck at the moment would be that I'd need to have one anyways to be able to borrow or record tapes from or for friends. If you already have a VHS that can be used for these purposes, or either don't intend to ever borrow or lend tapes to friends or only have friends with Betas (or, don't have any friends to start with), then buy whatever you want. It's your money (presumably), and I'm sure who or wherever is selling the Beta will be happy to have your money.

Also, though I'm not totally sure on my facts on this one, isn't 250 lines (assuming we're talking horizontal lines) more than NTSC TVs will display anyways? And I'd figure the Beta wouldn't have a S-VHS output (simply given the name) to output to a higher-res capable HDTV. If I'm wrong, I've learned yet another thing today :wink:
isn't a televisions total resolution 720x480? if so then I would think that you can have up to 480 horazontal lines of resolution. :wink: and I have never borrowed tapes from other people, but since beta's (or at least the old model I had those many years back) disables macro-vision, I can do more than 'borrow' the tapes. :wink:
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Re: Whoa...

Postby Knowname » Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:56 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:then he later posts again, like the forum god he thinks he is telling me how to spend my money

dang catatonic you wouldn't happen to be a big black chick would you cuz I can sence the head motions...

Y don't you just get your beta, move garfeild to avi or vcd (give it to me cuz I'd like to see :D) put the thing back in your closet and not touch it for another 10 or so! (maybe more cuz I don't think you'll find anything new you need in the future, on Beta...) we'd all be better off and no, I really don't think this thread was made primarily so you could just ask if others use beta, what does it matter?? of all your arguements ppl coulda' easily came back with 'DVD's better'. And nobodys dissin Beta (well Klinky's sorta maybe) but just tryin to talk some street sence into you cuz that's what you asked for. The first post was just dripping with 'I'm getting this and will love it so poo on you! If anybody can persuade me otherwise good luck!' (if your wondering where that 2nd part came from, cuz I kinda' was... it's cuz you posted it on a forum! Y else would you post on a forum other than if you were looking for a response.)
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Re: Whoa...

Postby CaTaClYsM » Wed Jan 22, 2003 4:01 pm

Knowname wrote:
CaTaClYsM wrote:then he later posts again, like the forum god he thinks he is telling me how to spend my money

dang catatonic you wouldn't happen to be a big black chick would you cuz I can sence the head motions...

Y don't you just get your beta, move garfeild to avi or vcd (give it to me cuz I'd like to see :D) put the thing back in your closet and not touch it for another 10 or so! (maybe more cuz I don't think you'll find anything new you need in the future, on Beta...) we'd all be better off and no, I really don't think this thread was made primarily so you could just ask if others use beta, what does it matter?? of all your arguements ppl coulda' easily came back with 'DVD's better'. And nobodys dissin Beta (well Klinky's sorta maybe) but just tryin to talk some street sence into you cuz that's what you asked for. The first post was just dripping with 'I'm getting this and will love it so poo on you! If anybody can persuade me otherwise good luck!' (if your wondering where that 2nd part came from, cuz I kinda' was... it's cuz you posted it on a forum! Y else would you post on a forum other than if you were looking for a response.)

THe response I was looking for was either a "Yes, I have and use a beta machine"
or
"No I do not have or use a beta machine, and any advice on whether or not I should get one was totaly non debatable.

And yes, DVD is better, And anything I want on DVD I will buy, but for things I see on TV I want that I cannot get on DVD I will need to record, which is why I am getting the beta.
but then again there is the whole recording things onto DVD wich is doable. btw, how much would the setup for a DVD RW cost?
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Re: Whoa...

Postby Knowname » Wed Jan 22, 2003 5:11 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:THe response I was looking for was either a "Yes, I have and use a beta machine"
or
"No I do not have or use a beta machine, and any advice on whether or not I should get one was totaly non debatable.

And yes, DVD is better, And anything I want on DVD I will buy, but for things I see on TV I want that I cannot get on DVD I will need to record, which is why I am getting the beta.
but then again there is the whole recording things onto DVD wich is doable. btw, how much would the setup for a DVD RW cost?


And you were looking for this responce for one of two reasons:
1>you wanted to have something in common with the rest of us (commonly assumed)
2>your evil :twisted:

anyway enough of this psychobabble 'i know you better than you know yourself crap' I don't use Beta and see no sence in getting pulled into a dieing (dead) technology. if I want more lines or whatever I'll do it on computer.

Also I don't think you mentioned any shows you'd be interested in taping (ooh time to break out the reality tv hoax!) so you don't need a DVD-R or RW just a $100 DVD set. A capture card is $20 if you NEED to tape something, keep it on HD, ftp (share it over kazaa is the best way to archive -_-) CDRs aint expensive $50 drive (70 combo), 90 cents media. I wouldn't get a RW till they come out with their shitty standard, better (Beta), worse I don't care.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Wed Jan 22, 2003 6:23 pm

I DID list the shows I would be recording. I already have a CD RW drive, but my HD is only 37 gigs. I dont even think I would have enough space to get an entire show onto my hard drive. and to get beta quality video I would need to use one CD a show, and in the event that I would buy DVD sets of the shows, then the CD's I burned them onto would be wasted, but with the beta, I can record over them with another show.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby Dannywilson » Wed Jan 22, 2003 7:05 pm

And now a recap for those that don't want to sit through 5 pages of mind numbing bullshit!

CaTaClYsM wrote:OMFG!!! Beta Rulz!!!!11one


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Postby CaTaClYsM » Wed Jan 22, 2003 7:58 pm

actually it went more like this

CaTaClYsM wrote: Beta is better than VHS.


The Rest of you retard wrote: buy a VHS even though it's crappier and it'll all be obsolite in 6 years!
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby klinky » Wed Jan 22, 2003 8:06 pm

Buy a VHS because technically it's not crappier and it's much cheaper and convient.


Did you actually expect people here, WHO ARE SANE AND DON'T GO FRITTERING THEIR MONEY AWAY ON another VCR just so they can video tape THE WEST wing in 100lines more then what they currently own, of which they probably won't notice. Also the fact that Beta tapes are about %30 more exspensive and hold about %30 less and HARDER COME BY.

It's just, if you already own a VHS there is no point in running out to get a Beta deck just to record TV shows with. It's just fucking stupid.


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