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Postby MistyCaldwell » Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:01 pm

I would suggest making vcds out of your vhs tapes. It's practically free and the technology will be around for years. It's also versatile enough if you need to output to something else in the future. Making DVDs would be cheaper still.

And buying a consumer dvd writer and some dvd-r's would still be cheaper than buying a new beta set-up :)
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:11 pm

but when I make the VCD of the VHS tape I've still lost alot of the video quality once I make the transfer, if I did it in SLP then what I am going to end up with is a grainy video with tracking crappy audio and block noise all over the place. I could instead just skip that whole VHS step of yours that I don't know why you put it there. and just copy the stuff right off the TV onto the comp and burn the CD's ep by ep, which I have considered.


oh btw, the beta setup would cost about this much.

Betamax player 70$
Tapes, 3 or 4 each tape
Head cleaner 5 bucks
how much would the DVD writer setup cost?
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Postby MistyCaldwell » Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:20 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote: I could instead just skip that whole VHS step of yours that I don't know why you put it there.


'Cause you said you had pre-recorded vhs tapes like Garfield's 9 lives. :roll:

oh btw, the beta setup would cost about this much.

Betamax player 70$
Tapes, 3 or 4 each tape
Head cleaner 5 bucks
how much would the DVD writer setup cost?


That beta machine isn't going to look as nice as the prosumer product I thought you were talking about, like the auction you posted where you had no idea the digibeta was $10,000. The one you mentioned doesn't look that much more incredible than a high quality vhs player recorder. Now I know what klinky and kthulhu were thinking and they are right.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:29 pm

MistyCaldwell wrote:
CaTaClYsM wrote: I could instead just skip that whole VHS step of yours that I don't know why you put it there.


'Cause you said you had pre-recorded vhs tapes like Garfield's 9 lives. :roll: that is a beta tape, not VHS first of all :roll: :roll: :roll:
and second of all because whenever I record something off of TV I plan to keep it forever, and TIVO would not only cost so much, but I doubt that the HD is going to be able to meet up to my daily recording needs.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:50 pm

Get a fooking VHS then.

Betamax is obsolete, Sony announced that about 6 months ago. It's a good format, but cannot live up to today's standards.

For example, my mom has a beta tape of "The Breakfast Club", which she recorded off TV a good 10-12 years ago. It's watchable, but has static on the top and bottom of the screen, etc.

The tape is stored in her video tape cabinet with her other 2-3 dozen tapes. (VHS and Betamax)
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:53 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:Get a fooking VHS then.

Betamax is obsolete, Sony announced that about 6 months ago. It's a good format, but cannot live up to today's standards.

For example, my mom has a beta tape of "The Breakfast Club", which she recorded off TV a good 10-12 years ago. It's watchable, but has static on the top and bottom of the screen, etc.

The tape is stored in her video tape cabinet with her other 2-3 dozen tapes. (VHS and Betamax)

what the fuck do you know? you thought DVD's came out in 99. Betamax is superior to VHS in every way, the only reason it tanked was because it was forced off the market.
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Postby klinky » Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:17 pm

The reason Beta tanked was because the creator didn't want to share information cheaply. VHS was cheaper to implement and the creator was more willing to give infomation on using it out.

Also exactly why did you make this little thread ? Was there any point besides you telling us you're going to use Beta to record your TV shows off the TV? I really could care less.


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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:47 am

CaTaClYsM wrote:
NicholasDWolfwood wrote:Get a fooking VHS then.

Betamax is obsolete, Sony announced that about 6 months ago. It's a good format, but cannot live up to today's standards.

For example, my mom has a beta tape of "The Breakfast Club", which she recorded off TV a good 10-12 years ago. It's watchable, but has static on the top and bottom of the screen, etc.

The tape is stored in her video tape cabinet with her other 2-3 dozen tapes. (VHS and Betamax)

what the fuck do you know? you thought DVD's came out in 99. Betamax is superior to VHS in every way, the only reason it tanked was because it was forced off the market.


So what if I was wrong about that little thing? Who really gives a fuck, anyway?

And IMHO, DVD is superior to every other format in every way, so there. :P (I know a lot of older movies aren't on DVDs, like movies from the 70s and 80s)
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Postby Mechaman » Mon Jan 20, 2003 2:35 am

Betamax player 70$
Tapes, 3 or 4 each tape
Head cleaner 5 bucks


The look on your face when the player's transport breaks six months down the line: priceless.
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Postby Synthangel » Mon Jan 20, 2003 9:54 am

I saw an interesting article the other day (well, the other month). Get a cheap computer around 486 speed (the pre-Pentiums), install two HD's in RAID-1 if you're worried about them 'crapping out', or just get one big one, install Linux and the Linux TV recording thing, get a cheap capture card, plug it into your TV, and viola! TiVo without the monthly payments and with more storage space (Oh yeah, install fans on your HD's too if you're a paranoid freak like me. It takes about an hour and around five dollars to do).
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Postby Mr Pilkington » Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:34 am

Synthangel wrote:I saw an interesting article the other day (well, the other month). Get a cheap computer around 486 speed (the pre-Pentiums), install two HD's in RAID-1 if you're worried about them 'crapping out', or just get one big one, install Linux and the Linux TV recording thing, get a cheap capture card, plug it into your TV, and viola! TiVo without the monthly payments and with more storage space (Oh yeah, install fans on your HD's too if you're a paranoid freak like me. It takes about an hour and around five dollars to do).


I took you this long to figure that out? I have known that since I first saw the Tivo unit. It’s called capture card. Same went for MOXI. I saw that at E3 and said to myself: “Okay, been there. Done that… It’s a PC with multi monitor output.” Just integrate your PC with your entertainment center and get it over with.





NicholasDWolfwood wrote:Get a fooking VHS then.

Betamax is obsolete, Sony announced that about 6 months ago. It's a good format, but cannot live up to today's standards.

For example, my mom has a beta tape of "The Breakfast Club", which she recorded off TV a good 10-12 years ago. It's watchable, but has static on the top and bottom of the screen, etc.

The tape is stored in her video tape cabinet with her other 2-3 dozen tapes. (VHS and Betamax)


You just need to get your facts strait. The reason her movie is fucked is because it was RECORDED off the TV. That right there inhibits the quality of footage. Let me tell you, beta-max is far superior to VHS. Let alone Beta. Every professional betamax tape I own is still in top condition. Better by far than the VHS of the similar era. Digital, compact.... It really is a wonder Betamax lost the war. And if you needed a press conference to realize it's is obsolete you got issues. The moment DVD was standardized that was apparent. Same goes for VHS. Hell I would take Laserdisc over VHS and Betamax any day, if it weren't for the whole issues of 50 billion different formats.
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Postby Ashton » Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:46 pm

I have TiVo, well, not "TiVo" but something exactly like it. There are no monthly payments, just a box that sits beside the television and records a whole bunch of stuff. It's more of a temporary solution though, because it can only record 30 hours of playback. And, to be fair, it was kinda expensive ($300)
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Mon Jan 20, 2003 2:20 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:
CaTaClYsM wrote:
NicholasDWolfwood wrote:Get a fooking VHS then.

Betamax is obsolete, Sony announced that about 6 months ago. It's a good format, but cannot live up to today's standards.

For example, my mom has a beta tape of "The Breakfast Club", which she recorded off TV a good 10-12 years ago. It's watchable, but has static on the top and bottom of the screen, etc.

The tape is stored in her video tape cabinet with her other 2-3 dozen tapes. (VHS and Betamax)

what the fuck do you know? you thought DVD's came out in 99. Betamax is superior to VHS in every way, the only reason it tanked was because it was forced off the market.


So what if I was wrong about that little thing? Who really gives a fuck, anyway?

And IMHO, DVD is superior to every other format in every way, so there. :P (I know a lot of older movies aren't on DVDs, like movies from the 70s and 80s)

except for digibeta, which is better than DVD's are, and will probabyl be around longer. :P :P :P :P :P
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Mon Jan 20, 2003 2:21 pm

klinky wrote:The reason Beta tanked was because the creator didn't want to share information cheaply. VHS was cheaper to implement and the creator was more willing to give infomation on using it out.

Also exactly why did you make this little thread ? Was there any point besides you telling us you're going to use Beta to record your TV shows off the TV? I really could care less.


~klinky


I wanted to see if other people here still used them.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Mon Jan 20, 2003 2:23 pm

Mechaman wrote:
Betamax player 70$
Tapes, 3 or 4 each tape
Head cleaner 5 bucks


The look on your face when the player's transport breaks six months down the line: priceless.


look on your face 20 years from now when my betamax is still running and you've bought your 5 VCR.

pcriceless
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