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Postby Dannywilson » Sat Jan 18, 2003 6:57 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:oh btw, I would just like to add that I get the feeling that evan a good video made with fansubs would get a person flamed right out of the boards.


"Not Another One!" was made purely with downloaded footage on a 533mhz Celeron. It has 2600 downloads. Its all in the quality of the idea behind the vid.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:06 pm

this guy is going to be banned by phade, because the rules specificaly say that you cannot make vids with downloaded footage.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby Rozard » Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:41 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:this guy is going to be banned by phade, because the rules specificaly say that you cannot make vids with downloaded footage.

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Postby MistyCaldwell » Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:46 pm

That was an appropriate response Rozard, but all the emoticons trying to roll their eyes at once, makes..slow....computers....struggle..... ^.^

(the one I surf with is a 300mhz)


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Postby Rozard » Sat Jan 18, 2003 9:19 pm

Ouch, sorry. I was gonna cut some of the lines, but I decided against it. Plus, I overanticipated. Oh well! Lessons learnt for next time :twisted: Hey, at least I didn't use the Flame Template :roll: :roll: :roll: :wink:
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Postby OmniStrata » Sat Jan 18, 2003 10:02 pm

I should have been banned long ago then...

Too bad my vids have 3 awards :p
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Postby Dannywilson » Sun Jan 19, 2003 3:21 am

CaTaClYsM wrote:this guy is going to be banned by phade, because the rules specificaly say that you cannot make vids with downloaded footage.


the flame form wrote:Blow me.


My thoughts exactly, flame form!
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Postby kthulhu » Sun Jan 19, 2003 3:58 am

That would've worked better from Basil, I think.

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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:32 am

2. Thou shalt not use downloaded music to make AMVs.

Allow me to point out the irony of the fact that phade will flame me for keeping a anti-inviso mod thread going ( Which I was really only using to blow off some steam, I guess he took it pretty seriously.)
But I get flamed for pointing out that using a fansub is specificaly against the rules. I don't like that rule either personaly, but I was under the impresion that everyone looked down on that kind of thing, as was expressed by people in other threads.[/quote]
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:36 am

klinky wrote:It's wrong to use footage you have not paid for, but there is no need to blurt to the world that you're thinking of doing it. That's like standing outside a bank. Yelling "I am going to rob this bank!", then going in a doing it


For instance here is a quote of klinky comparing using downloaded footage to bank robbery.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby kthulhu » Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:48 am

It's an analogy. If you're going to rob a bank, and you expect bad consequences for doing so, you don't tell everyone that you intend to rob the bank and expect to pull it off easily. You just do it, or (hopefully) you don't.

Same with downloaded footage. Saying you use downloaded Evangelion footage that you don't own to make your vid will get you flamed. If you say nothing, maybe you will get away with it. It's more like the "don't ask, don't tell" policy in the army. You're less likely to get into trouble if you keep your mouth shut.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:52 am

yes, but the thing that you are all tip toeing around that you are neglecting to mention is that the REASON you don't tell is because it is wrong. DAMN I hate this, I cannot believe I am somehow taking sides in an ethics argument that I am on the side I don't want to be on. Can you start pissing on people for using the fansubs and I start defending it?
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby Dannywilson » Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:56 am

Moral of this fucking story: Don't start an argument if you expect to become the Devil's Advocate for it.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:16 am

but wouldnt that mean kthulu is the Devil's Advocate since he is the one defending the piracy and I'm arguing against it?
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby EarthCurrent » Sun Jan 19, 2003 7:09 am

I have no real gripes about VHS fansubbers..they tend to control distibution pretty well, most importantly after the producted has been announced as licensed. I do have a problem with digisubs, and the ease that copies can and continue to be distributed through P2P progs even after a tittle has been licensed and released. I might glare at the music industries attempts to clamp down on .mp3 distrobution, but I have enough people I personally know working in various U.S. anime companies that I consider to be friends that I kinda get peeved when people trade pirated goods instead of buying legit products. These folks ae anime fans too, and I don't like to think that I'm not supporting them.
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