Describe your crative process

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Describe your crative process

Postby CaTaClYsM » Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:45 pm

I want to know how everyone here makes their AMV's. How seriously they take it, where their ideas come from. And most importantly, how they make their videos. Do you watch the anime through once with a notepad and jot down scenes to use or do you do it by the seat of your pants? Do you choose your anime and then the song? or the song and then choose the anime? What is the deciding factor in a scene that makes it stand out over all the others? When do you use a special effect and why? things like that.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby Koopiskeva » Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:47 pm

I go by, "Hey, that look pretty cool!"

That's about it. :?
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Postby Castor Troy » Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:54 pm

I do the ballerina twirl.
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Postby Stryker » Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:18 pm

I listen to the voices in my head. And then do the opposite. :twisted:
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Postby You choose Sam,the rest » Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:42 pm

I follow the images in my head.....
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Postby RichLather » Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:02 pm

(ignoring the funneh spam)

I'll pick up on a certain song, on the basis of lyrics that seem to match stuff I've watched.

I then listen to the song until I get sick of it (usually 4 or 5 times at a stretch on the way to and from work), analyzing the lyrics and imagining scenes to put to them. Once I hit this point, it's usually a given that I will go through with the video.

Then it comes down to DVD-ripping and editing.
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Postby Jebadia » Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:12 pm

Usually I'll hear a song, and by now, every song I hear I try and think if it would make a video, so I'm always seeing video ideas, and the only cure for this is more cow bell!

Anywho, I usually visualize the video in my head for a good week or so, because by the end of the week, I'd of gotten off my lazy ass to start the video.

Alot of times a song will carry a part in it that may be long and drawn out (good point for a dramatically animated scene in an anime, almost any anime, but that is usually for..uhm...more dramatic videos, as for action hell, any scene can work at times) that gives me ideas, not dirty ones either, well, sometimes, then again, I find myself without pants at those times...but it's cool.....
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Postby Ashton » Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:21 pm

Old creative process: Pick a song and an anime (any two will do) and think of about 2 clips which might or might not look cool in certain places. Then, struggle with the footage and song until you have spent 70 hours on even a rudimentary AMV.
New Process: Take out a pad of paper and a pen. For the next day write down every interesting song you hear. Then, go home and download all of them. Think about what anime might work with those songs, and then decide weather or not purchases will be made. Aqcuire footage and CDs. Next, get back to the pad of paper, and break the song up into general sections (puting tons of space below each heading.) Listen to the song several times, then re-watch the entire anime (for movies, twice would be fine) making notes on scenes that fit the sections of the music. Next, listen to the song a whole bunch more times. I typicly make a list at this point that looks like this:
1. Slight pulsing/intro
no background(4):
violin intro(6):
tension build(2):
2. Explosion to first chorus
chorus intro (4):
chorus end (2):
bridge(6):
and so on and so forth. The numbers represent the number of measures in each of the sub sections. The more measures, the more footage that will fit. Next I might watch the anime one more time, and this time around fill all those sub section slots with definate scene selections.
Thats the planing part anyway. After that the work is all exicution in premiere/AE. So, yeah, any questions? ^_^
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Postby The Wired Knight » Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:25 pm

*listens to the radio*
DUDE THIS SONG FITS......

or

*random song stuck in head*
You know, this could be fitting for.....

or

*recieves blow to the head witha blunt object*
It just dawned on me that.....

or

Beer, gin, whisky, wine, champagne, bourbon, sugar....


After that come endless hours of listening to the song and taking notes on a lyrics sheet. Then I get to work.
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Postby Castor Troy » Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:26 pm

The Wired Knight wrote:Beer, gin, whisky, wine, champagne, bourbon, sugar....


The greatest sources of inspiration!
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Postby Beowulf » Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:20 pm

Every single video I've goten has come from listening to a song and having "omfg [insert anime] would go so well with this!" pop into my head. After that pops, I think about it and investigate it a little more to see if it would really work, taking into account length, pacing, scenes, climax, and sometimes lyrics. A lot fo video ideas I get are basically ideas for about 1 minute of the song. Thats what my third video was. I'll never do that shit again. For anyone thats seen it, youll notice the first minute thirty rawks ass and everything else is just "huhhhhhh........"

But then I listen to the song and think about it while I'm stoned, to see if I can think up any other new concepts or scenes, or to just see if it still works. If I get the green light from both states of consiousness, then its video time!
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Postby jal0021 » Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:37 pm

For me, the music is the foundation for everything. Essentially, I'll be listening to a song, and I'll be struck with a vision of it working with a particular anime series. In other words, I don't decide on a song and then go in search of an anime series to use as a source - instead, the two come together at the same moment of the initial realization of an idea.

After that, things go in different directions. Sometimes I'll sit down with the song lyrics (if applicable), listen to the song a million times, and flesh out some ideas. Sometimes it's just a rough outline, and other times it's a pretty detailed storyboard. I actually DON'T like doing this as much as I used to, as I'll sometimes fall into the trap of approaching it like a director, envisioning the sort of shots and scenes I WANT to use in order to make an idea work, whether they exist or not. I've had to scrap too many good ideas because of this, so now I prefer to just jot down a rough outline at most and get on with it.

If it's been awhile since I've watched the series I'm using, I'll usually shelve the idea for a later time (in other words, for after I've watched it again). If it's something I've seen recently and remember well, I'll grab the DVDs and fast forward through everything, keeping an eye out for particular scenes that fit whatever story I'm trying to tell or mood I'm trying to set. As I'm going along, I'll note the chapters on each disc that contain scenes I'm thinking of using.

After that, I'll start ripping the DVDs, only grabbing the chapters I'm interested in. It doesn't make much sense to have a whole series - hours upon hours of source footage - sitting on the HD when all I need is a few minutes worth. Sure, that adds time to the preparation stage, but it really pays off once I start editing, as there'll be less source footage to scrub through. And if during the editing process I discover I missed something or find that I need something I don't have, it's a simple matter of grabbing the DVDs, finding it, and ripping it.

Once I start editing, I just kind of go with the flow. Even if I have a detailed outline, it won't be long before I'm changing things up. To be honest, once I'm in editing mode, I just let the creative process take over. Then, it's just a matter of working until I get bored, tired, or creatively spent. A video may take 50 hours spread over a month or so, but much of that work will come in long sessions of editing. If I don't think I have the time to devote to a long session, I'll just wait until I do. I don't like to stop working when I'm on a roll.
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Postby Chaos Angel » Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:43 pm

I don't take a song and try to match up an anime to it or vice versa. I usually just get an idea while listening to a song and go with it. For footage, rather than watch the whole series, I rip the whole thing and go through episode by episode loking for scenes that look as if they might be useful. I also don't edit in a set style. I usually do a section, anal-retentively obsess over it, then do another section. Although I'm trying to be more "organized" and lay out base footage before doing effects work, I usually effectualize each section and get it the way I want it befoe I move on. I'm very lax about the whole thing, which is probably why my videos are horrible. ;)
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Postby dokool » Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:49 pm

For me, inspiration is almost always derived from the music itself. For example, my "Warning" vid was just an automatic "Hey, that's Asuka!" From there, I just ripped all of the episodes w/ the best Asuka and Eva Unit 02 footage and went to town. Mmm, Asuka...

"Fine Again" (soon to be listed) just spawned from my obsession w/ the song. I put a *lot* more work into that one, because it was dramatic instead of just about one character. I thought about what scenes would work where, I scripted, and eventually I edited. The thought process took about a month, but it made editing much easier.

My vids are also limited by, well, what I have. If a song I want to do a vid for can't work w/ Eva, Lain, Cowboy Bebop, or Akira, then it doesn't get done. I'd expand my collection, but I'm a firm believer in waiting for box sets =)
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Postby mexicanjunior » Wed Jan 15, 2003 12:18 am

I listen for starfish on the beach and act accordingly. :\
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