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so like i'm a newbie...whats this all about

Postby geniejunkie » Thu Jan 02, 2003 11:42 pm

first off, darn fine site. second, whoa, I just found out about all this and I'm interested. So i guess any info on amv anyone could give me would be great but mostly right now I'm curious about this:

Thou shalt not use downloaded video footage to make AMVs.
Thou shalt not use downloaded music to make AMVs

what's this all about? why is it a problem?

I know... I'm clueless, eh?

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Postby Phade » Fri Jan 03, 2003 12:09 am

Hey,

I'm glad you like the site. ^_^ There are pleanty of resources in the "guides" section about making AMVs. Hit the "search vids" for, well, vids.

The "don't use downloaded stuff" is for several reason:

1. Downloaded footage usually makes crappy video/audio quality. There are really rare instances where you really can't tell, but for the vast majority, the output looks like total junk.

2. The anime industry is a kinda small niche market. If they don't make money, they stop making anime. I want to see more anime. Downloading anime really doesn't help them much at all.

3. I'm sure there are pleanty of other good reasons, but I've been up for 18 hours and I can't think anymore.

Hopefully others will post more coherant answers soon. Thanks again and have fun!! ^_^

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boy I am clueless

Postby geniejunkie » Fri Jan 03, 2003 12:41 am

i thought people just did this here and there you guys have quite alittle sub-culture! So I looked over you're guide and it says don't use DL'ed footage b/c its bad quality, but if somebody rips a DVD and I DL it what happens to the quality? Is it degraded or something? I'm not sure I understand where the quality takes the hit. Anyway, I obivously need some real gear to try and make my AMV ideas come to life, so I'm going back to the guides section to read up. (since I saw my first AMV on .wmv I've got some footage of that (umm not that I'll post it but just that I'd like to play with some of it) so the question is how do you convert .wmv to .avi or something?

thanks Phade
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Re: boy I am clueless

Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:01 am

geniejunkie wrote:i thought people just did this here and there you guys have quite alittle sub-culture! So I looked over you're guide and it says don't use DL'ed footage b/c its bad quality, but if somebody rips a DVD and I DL it what happens to the quality? Is it degraded or something? I'm not sure I understand where the quality takes the hit.


It's a magic word called "compression". Those "DVD rips" you download are compressed and have lost lots of quality in the compression stage.
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okay but

Postby geniejunkie » Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:10 am

what else are you guys doing but ripping dvds compressing them and posting the final product? You're telling me that ripped dvd lose quality in compression but i don't see how that changes anything since the guide says to rip dvds? (alittle confused over here)
Anyway, you guys do have much better quality i think, so what the secret? Well, hells bells looks like I'm off forum topic...

oh well, thanks for the help anyhow
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Postby klinky » Fri Jan 03, 2003 5:26 am

To clarify.

The idea is that you don't want to compress already compressed footage.

Though still DVD footage is compressed with MPEG2, but usually it's a very high quality compression. It is currently the highest quality source you can get easily.

If you take a anime DVD, compress it, go and edit with it, then compress it again and put it up on the web, it's not going to look very good.

Also just the fact that you're not paying and keeping the anime industry alive isn't much of a help either.

O_O

Quite frankley though, I don't care where you get your footage from, just don't come complaining if it looks horrid, or start boasting that you know how to get it. ^_^ Don't ask don't tell... ;)


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Okay thanks that makes things a bit clearer...

Postby geniejunkie » Fri Jan 03, 2003 5:34 am

but just to double check... am I to understand the way to save quality is compress only once? I'm guessing this means you rip the dvd and then edit it and only then compress it? Great jupiter I gotta get a vid capture or something!

Anyway thanks for helping me out!
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Re: Okay thanks that makes things a bit clearer...

Postby klinky » Fri Jan 03, 2003 7:40 am

geniejunkie wrote:but just to double check... am I to understand the way to save quality is compress only once? I'm guessing this means you rip the dvd and then edit it and only then compress it? Great jupiter I gotta get a vid capture or something!

Anyway thanks for helping me out!



Yep that's it.

As for ripping, ripping is all digital. All you need is a DVD-ROM and some DVDs.

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