Which type of annoying anime fan irritates you the most?

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Which type of annoying anime fan irritates you the most?

Postby BishounenStalker » Wed Jan 01, 2003 9:43 pm

*ducks blazing arrows from trigger-happy flamers*


I'm not calling ALL anime fans annoying (hell, I'd be calling myself annoying if I did), but through a general observation I've found two types of anime fans that a lot of people seem to find annoying as all get-out: Newbies and OtakuNazis.

I'm simply asking which of those two do you find more irksome?

IMO, I don't actually hate Newbies. These people who have only seen the anime Cartoon Network airs can be easily rescued simply by showing them more variety. Believe me, I've met tons of these people in Orlando who have only seen DBZ and the Saturday Adult Swim. I showed them my Excel Saga DVDs, Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust, and Rurouni Kenshin, and directed them to Animenation.com. Now they're full-fledged, crack-happy anime fans.

The ones who piss me off are the second group, the OtakuNazis (ONs) who hate anything dubbed and/or popular, and anyone who watches said dubbed and/or popular anime. It's especially bad when they declare a certain anime the greatest show ever made, but the minute it hits American television, it suddenly sucks beyond all belief (dubbed AND subbed). I had a friend last year who was like that about Cowboy Bebop. He worshipped the show until Adult Swim picked it up. Then he declared the whole thing the "worst piece of crap ever produced."

What the ONs don't realize is that not everyone has a miles-large bank account, access to a broadband internet connection, or lives in an area that has good local anime shops (I'm fortunate enough to have the third one). Hence, for some poor souls, Cartoon Network's Adult Swim is their ONLY resource for anime.

Hell, I STILL watch Saturday Adult Swim. The only reason I skip Inuyasha is because Kagome's English voice annoys me, and my local anime club (JACO - Japanese Animation Club of Orlando) shows Inuyasha subbed every other Saturday. Not to mention they're further ahead than AS. But I still catch the others, including Cowboy Bebop reruns.

So which group would you guys classify as more annoying? The Newbies or the Nazis?
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Postby FATTY_VM » Wed Jan 01, 2003 9:50 pm

lol i was once a n00b .. but i also have a fondness for subbed anime and prefer it over the dubbed ... for the shear reason of hearing both shinji's and amaro's (Sp) voice in EoE and gundum respectively... but i dont mind watching "popular anime" and dont hate the ones on CN ... lol i even like DBZ's dubbed voices over their origionals (cant say the same for CB)

the type of person i hate are the ones who refuse to watch a certain type of anime and always take the reviews of others over trying something new.
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Re: Which type of annoying anime fan irritates you the most?

Postby Alucard_FoN » Wed Jan 01, 2003 9:51 pm

BishounenStalker wrote:What the ONs don't realize is that not everyone has a miles-large bank account, access to a broadband internet connection, or lives in an area that has good local anime shops (I'm fortunate enough to have the third one). Hence, for some poor souls, Cartoon Network's Adult Swim is their ONLY resource for anime.


I'm fortunate enough to have the second one ^^. I dislike both groups, actually, though I don't hate either. Newbies are annoying because they seem unable to to search a few pages of forum threads, so they make threads that have been posted 5000000 times before. They could avoid this if they learned to look around a forum a bit before posting. The other group is also irritating. Personally, I don't like dubs, but that's in general, I WILL watch dubbed anime if it's well done. I like the Cowboy Bebop dub, and I like the Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust dub. I will also watch popular anime... I like CB, Trigun, etc, and those are both very popular.
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Postby iserlohn » Wed Jan 01, 2003 9:55 pm

Stalker-fanboys. Especially of fan-produced works. There's this one guy who comes to everything amv related in the dc corridor and hangs off the creators and has every video you can think of memorized, which is a pity because he's an idiot when it comes to understanding what a creator wanted to do. None of the creators know this guy's name, just that he annoyed the hell out of us at AnimeUSA.

This extends to other areas of fandom, too. I was in an IRC chan recently and someone was doing nothing but praising some random member of a digisub group. Glad to know you think this person does good work, but changing your nick to "<name>s-crewmember" is a bit over the top, especially when all this person does is secondary translations...

As far as CN-Otaku go, my only real problem with them is that they have a habit of not expanding their view past what goes on TV. Re: Otaku-Nazis, every so often they can piss me off. I'm primarily a sub watcher, but understand why some people prefer dubs, and even like a couple better than the original Japanese. That being said, I do have friends who think that dub actors should rot in hell for trying to imitate the originals. Silly, if you ask me. The biggest problem with the die-hard anti-dubbies is that they're mostly the old-school crowd who are a LOT more interesting to talk to and fun to hang out with...ah well, compromises must be made.
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Postby Dannywilson » Thu Jan 02, 2003 4:32 am

iserlohn wrote:Stalker-fanboys. Especially of fan-produced works. There's this one guy who comes to everything amv related in the dc corridor and hangs off the creators and has every video you can think of memorized, which is a pity because he's an idiot when it comes to understanding what a creator wanted to do. None of the creators know this guy's name, just that he annoyed the hell out of us at AnimeUSA.


There was some dude like that at AWA, that wouldnt leave Ermac and Quu alone... he had long hair and was wearing a monacle... Creepy as hell if you ask me...
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Postby Kracus » Thu Jan 02, 2003 8:02 am

I guess I was never a noob by the standards in this thread, hate that word (I prefer newbie). Cartoon Network wasn't even around or in planning when I started watching, DBZ wasn't my first anime (DB and DBZ first came on channel 20 for me, now WB, along with sailor moon, RONIN WARRIORS, miss that one), and neither was anything that came on adult swim, which I've only watched once. Anyway, I started off unknowingly with voltron and the like. Later on BEFORE cartoon network, the original networks that showed anime like WB I believe, before they were the WB. And Sci Fi channel, when I was able to look at cable. Saw a whole bunch with sci fi, demon city shinjuku, the cat eyes movie (can't remember name), some weird one where this old man's wife was alive in a robot bed that took him on a walk around the city (weird), and others. First anime I bought was Akira in 92.

I hate the Nazi's the most, cause they exist in just about ever form or hobby. The obsessive whore who believe they know everything about everything. I also don't like people who crack on newbies ALL the time, when they forgot they were one themselves.
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Postby Kracus » Thu Jan 02, 2003 8:04 am

I meant "form of hobby" in the second paragraph.
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Postby False_Martyr » Thu Jan 02, 2003 12:15 pm

yea, the people who act like they are all godlike and know everythng about anime (the nazis, as they have been named) suck. i try not to get a newbies much, because of course i was a beginner at some point (i still don't know as much as i'd like, but meh), but they can be annoying to. at least the ones who don't try to find good anime on their own or act like they know everything. bah, im rambling
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Postby tamashii » Thu Jan 02, 2003 1:48 pm

Both

I have no prob with dubbing, I personally think they sound gay ( and ratlike when they like attack or scream, dbz in specific ) in japanese. I do watch stuff outside cartoon network but I'm not a maniac that aviods it completely.

I don't like noobs however who think dbz is the best anime out there and just because they watch it they think they can act like the owns of the place, when in reality dbz is not that good. I'm sure I don't have to explain why.

To the Otaku's I say "Chill, it won't kill you to watch something that is known to more than a few hundred ( if even that ) people

To the noob I say " There's plenty of good anime out there that's not on CN *cough kenshin cough* "
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Postby ryu amata » Thu Jan 02, 2003 2:12 pm

i don't see why there ever could be a prob with noobs unless they are stuck on only 1 anime or something. What i hate, i guess it could be the natzi one, is a person that thinks every other show is modeled after the one they like. I have a friend that thinks evrything was modeled after the dragon ball series. i can't stand it.
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Postby kthulhu » Thu Jan 02, 2003 2:18 pm

Even Azumanga Daioh?
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Postby Wykith » Thu Jan 02, 2003 2:27 pm

ryu amata wrote:i don't see why there ever could be a prob with noobs unless they are stuck on only 1 anime or something. What i hate, i guess it could be the natzi one, is a person that thinks every other show is modeled after the one they like. I have a friend that thinks evrything was modeled after the dragon ball series. i can't stand it.

:shock: Now that's very ignorant.
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Postby ryu amata » Thu Jan 02, 2003 3:43 pm

I KNOW!!! H e even goes as far as to say certain games copy the series.
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I don't think necessity is the mother of invention - invention, in my opinion, arises directly from idleness, possibly from laziness. To save oneself trouble.
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Postby Mroni » Fri Jan 03, 2003 2:10 am

Super Saiyan chiyo attack!!!!

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Postby BigshotSpike » Fri Jan 03, 2003 3:04 am

"Haha, look at me! I have more anime and manga than you! I just bought the Escaflowne boxed set, all of DBZ, every volume of Ranma 1/2, and every single episode of Crayon Shin Chan! I'm sooo much better than you are because I've wasted my entire paycheck on anime and now I can't pay rent, eat, or pay for gas for over a month! hahahahahah!"

Yeah...I think that about sums it up.
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