The opening sequence is NOT mostly okay with forced film, the DVDs were not soft telecined.Mister Hatt wrote:That doesn't sound right at all, seeing as the OP has declared it to be mostly ok when forced FILM, which implies most of it is soft-telecine and pattern detection is useless.
Mister Hatt wrote:Additionally, the distortion is clearly combing, NOT aliasing
Okay, now I know that section well, it is the only spot in the series that is like that, and only the ONE character int he bottom part of the screen is like that (for the entire sequence, even when she is not moving). She displays like that no matter how she is decoded (or played back for that matter...she shows up like that on TV). She is actually "ghosted" before you deinterlace as well, that part is definitely something wrong with the source material and not his method of handling the footage.Mister Hatt wrote:and the ghosting effect looks like what is very typical of an incorrect field order setting in forced deinterlacing, a common issue on mostly soft-telecined content with hybrid or VFR sections.
Mister Hatt wrote:I think your suggestion will definitely fix some stuff in a damaging way, but for most people it will be enough to make it look ok. There is a better way to do it for quality and speed's sake which I've outlined.
Oh I'm sorry, I guess you weren't aware of the Evangelion movie release that were HARD LETTERBOXED and poorly encoded...Mister Hatt wrote:Making assumptions about the mastering of a DVD, especially something relatively high profile, is not the right way to help anybody.
I haven't researched every bit of how the show was animated, so you may be right on this, but it doesn't seem to be a factor with how the footage was mastered for this "remastered" release.Mister Hatt wrote:Incidentally, still cels inside a larger frame was among the first digital composition effects, long before CG and computer rendering.
I'm thinking you may have worked with the older DVD release if that is the case, else it would be nice if you actually shared an actual method for cleaning up this footage...Mister Hatt wrote:(PS I've seen the actual masters, you're wrong)
I actually missed his screenshot... ...I can see his source video was encoded differently from the Platinum Edition US release...Here's the video info from the first episode of that DVD release:Mister Hatt wrote:I.. what? How can you say it's not soft-telecined when the DGIndex screenshot from the OP literally shows it?!
Mister Hatt wrote:As far as the masters go, yes I thought this was the original, not a remastering. I've actually seen a lot of hybrid cel stuff tho, because re-animated content is done at a different framerate and then composited with the original. It's quite common to mix 12fps and 18fps content like that especially.
It really depends on the source as thing such as post production added studio logos before or after a movie can throw off the percentage from being 100% film, or errors in the mastering. Really it comes down to evaluating the source when it comes to how you are going to handle it, however sometimes a source with 99.9% or higher works with force film. At the end of the day it comes down to properly and carefully analyzing your source and deciding which method works best for handling it properly.Mister Hatt wrote:NO NO NO, never EVER use Force FILM for soft-telecine unless it is 100% FILM!
Mister Hatt wrote:There is a misunderstanding here. I meant content which is ACTUALLY 100% FILM, not whatever random percentage your indexer reports. Related, the OP's content clearly has non-FILM sections which are not logos, credits, or anything else similar.
Mister Hatt wrote:He talks about combed and interlaced sections, not just aliasing. Also I have the d2v.
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