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Obama Wins!

Postby Kionon » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:26 pm

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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby Jwalk0 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:30 pm

God bless us. Everyone.
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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby meleechampion » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:13 am

America!

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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby trythil » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:23 am

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Re: Obama Wins!

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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby Amaterasu » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:34 am

It's not that I like to see Democrats win, but I LOVE to see Republicans lose.

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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby mirkosp » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:47 am

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Because he's the hero America deserves, but not the one it needs right now?
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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby Kionon » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:11 am

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Always a good time for some Obamanation!

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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby MimS » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:01 am

Good thing : ) (imho of course)
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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby CodeZTM » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:49 am

Ok, so I haven't been able to properly celebrate anywhere else (my family is CRYING and my facebook people probably wouldn't approve), and I've had to be rather calm about it, so please pardon me for a second.

/dance

Also, 3 new gay marriage states, 1 defended state, Mourdock didn't win his seat, AND puerto rico might be jumping on board? Holy crap, THE PROGRESS. :')

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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby Qyot27 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:57 am

The irony was so strong last night I had to keep myself from posting because I feared Murphy's Law would kick in and partially invalidate what I was about to say.

When the projections won it for Obama, immediately the complaints from my parents started about how the Electoral College has overwritten the will of the people and the process is so unfair if he didn't win the popular vote and whatall (taking the time now to note that they are Republicans, or at least my dad is)...and they went to bed. Two hours later...

Granted, I vaguely remember them saying the same thing in 2000 with all the ridiculousness when Gore won the popular vote but lost the College (and we live in Florida, so we had front row seats), and I'm inclined to agree that having a straight popular vote is less contentious on the whole, even though I was happy when the initial EV count was in. But how many do you wanna bet will stand up to defend the Electoral College because it got them Bush, but now talk out the other side of their mouth and started to decry it just because they lost before the popular vote further secured that fact? That's where the irony really was/would have been.
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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby Jadecavy » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:12 am

I wanted Jack Layton to win. :(

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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby Otohiko » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:42 am

Jadecavy wrote:I wanted Jack Layton to win. :(


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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:06 pm

Qyot27 wrote:The irony was so strong last night I had to keep myself from posting because I feared Murphy's Law would kick in and partially invalidate what I was about to say.

When the projections won it for Obama, immediately the complaints from my parents started about how the Electoral College has overwritten the will of the people and the process is so unfair if he didn't win the popular vote and whatall (taking the time now to note that they are Republicans, or at least my dad is)...and they went to bed. Two hours later...

Granted, I vaguely remember them saying the same thing in 2000 with all the ridiculousness when Gore won the popular vote but lost the College (and we live in Florida, so we had front row seats), and I'm inclined to agree that having a straight popular vote is less contentious on the whole, even though I was happy when the initial EV count was in. But how many do you wanna bet will stand up to defend the Electoral College because it got them Bush, but now talk out the other side of their mouth and started to decry it just because they lost before the popular vote further secured that fact? That's where the irony really was/would have been.

The funny part ends up being, Obama now has the popular vote too, so all the bitching over it was for naught. All the people claiming Romney had it did so before counting CA... the state with the most people voting by a huge margin and the one that's heavily (D).

It really is all about making up your own little world and getting pissed when reality comes a-knockin. It was never really as close as all the news reports made it seem. That was just a naritive to get out the vote and keep people glued to their TVs. And i'm pretty damn impressed at how many people showed up.

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Re: Obama Wins!

Postby Qyot27 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:34 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:The funny part ends up being, Obama now has the popular vote too, so all the bitching over it was for naught. All the people claiming Romney had it did so before counting CA... the state with the most people voting by a huge margin and the one that's heavily (D).

That's what the 'Two hours later...' part was.

It really is all about making up your own little world and getting pissed when reality comes a-knockin. It was never really as close as all the news reports made it seem. That was just a naritive to get out the vote and keep people glued to their TVs. And i'm pretty damn impressed at how many people showed up.

On the 'own little world' bent, the ghost won't subside so easily. Red-baiting and neo-McCarthyist whinging is now getting into full swing, I'm sure (more than it already was, anyway). I've already seen some of it on another forum I frequent.

I mourn more for the misuse of the word Progressive in these diatribes, though. Not just because it's treating it as being a bad thing, but because they get the actual definition of Progressivism so horrifically wrong. Center-left isn't socialist, and with the current trends it's barely Progressive beyond a couple of notable Congressmen (besides the part where Socialism and Progressivism are distinctly different ideologies anyway). Worse yet, they still seem to agree that Europe knows firsthand what socialism is, but conveniently ignore the part where Europeans laugh whenever right-wingers try to claim the Democrats are socialist.

Not to mention the part where this largely just reaffirmed the status quo - it wasn't a tremendous shift in power: a couple seats in the Senate went Democratic, and Obama won the popular vote by an ~700,000 point margin (and the electoral college handily), but the House is still in Republican control. So unless the Republican commentators on CNN were right and the Right fractures so badly it prevents itself from gaining ground by slipping further into the extremes and suppressing its moderates, we're in pretty much the same position we were in the day before the election.
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