KATSUCON 19 AMV contest: WINNERS (page 6)

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KATSUCON 19 AMV contest: WINNERS (page 6)

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:39 am

The Katsucon 19 AMV contest is NOW OPEN!
http://www.katsucon.org/programming/amv-contest/
Read. The. Rules!


And if you wanna go extreme with your AMVs, there's this contest:
http://www.katsucon.org/programming/amv ... w-contest/
Again...READ THE RULES!


Any questions?..contact me directly.
Now GO!
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby Athena » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:03 am

Will submit, will be present. :D
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby l33tmeatwad » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:55 am

So I saw this...
** We are NO LONGER accepting mp4, for we are not afraid of larger files and the compression makes for bad visual quality.

After this...
The following formats will be accepted, provided that they meet the above standards:
...
MPEG 2
MPEG 1
...
Divx avi
Xvid avi

So you won't accept MP4s (which typically have H264 compression which is a newer development of the MPEG-4 compression type), yet accept Divx and Xvid (which are older outdated versions of MPEG-4 compression and have LOWER QUALITY than H264) and use compression for bad visual quality as the reason? Are you are MORON?

Also, MPEG-1? SERIOUSLY???????????????????????????????? That video codec is archaic as ****! If you are going to complain about compression quality, don't even MENTION that!

I am petitioning right now that you removed DIVX, XIVD, and MPEG-1 as compression choices if you do not allow submission of videos using H264 in an MP4 container...

Also...
Audio:

...
MPEG audio (mp3, mp2, etc.)

Those formats are more lossy compared to AAC...if you are complaining about quality issues, then require PCM audio.


PS MPEG-2 is more lossy than x264 as well considering the presets everyone uses...assuming they use ZarxGUI or any half decent GUI for x264
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby Iron Solari » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:56 pm

Awwwwwwwwwww Yeahhhhh, It's that time of year again. Let's do this!
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:37 pm

l33tmeatwad wrote:etc etc etc

Thank you for your expert advice or whatever.
It would have been nice if a bit of civility were exercised here.
Also...you couldn't have PM'd this to me?
I appreciate the input but really...
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby l33tmeatwad » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:50 pm

Deuce Loosely wrote:
l33tmeatwad wrote:etc etc etc

Thank you for your expert advice or whatever.
It would have been nice if a bit of civility were exercised here.
Also...you couldn't have PM'd this to me?
I appreciate the input but really...

I figured I'd make it memorable for you :bear:
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby Iron Solari » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:27 pm

I would also like to know which formats, fps, and audio qualities I am required to be working with at this point. It seems undetermined, even though there are some set in stone in the rules. I personally prefer AAC, 23.976-29.97 FPS, and h.264/mp4. They are amazingly easy to understand and deal with and they keep awesome quality.

I understand how compression, storage space, and memory can be a problem especially with FTPs sometimes, but at the same time I can see what l33tmeatwad is saying, in terms of petitioning.
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:29 pm

Iron Solari wrote:I would also like to know which formats, fps, and audio qualities I am required to be working with at this point. It seems undetermined, even though there are some set in stone in the rules. I personally prefer AAC, 23.976-29.97 FPS, and h.264/mp4. They are amazingly easy to understand and deal with and they keep awesome quality.

I understand how compression, storage space, and memory can be a problem especially with FTPs sometimes, but at the same time I can see what l33tmeatwad is saying, in terms of petitioning.

Okay...so I sent a message to the webmasters saying the following:

* delete mpeg1, XVid avi, and DivX avi
* replace the "no mp4" statement with the following:
"mp4 (must be AAC or h264 compression - no exceptions)"

Does this help? :amv:
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby l33tmeatwad » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:31 pm

Iron Solari wrote:I would also like to know which formats, fps, and audio qualities I am required to be working with at this point. It seems undetermined, even though there are some set in stone in the rules. I personally prefer AAC, 23.976-29.97 FPS, and h.264/mp4. They are amazingly easy to understand and deal with and they keep awesome quality.

I understand how compression, storage space, and memory can be a problem especially with FTPs sometimes, but at the same time I can see what l33tmeatwad is saying, in terms of petitioning.

Well, he does list the prefered FPS, although I doubt he knows what it means because the site says this:
29.97 fps -OR- 23.976 fps with 3:2 pulldown
Non-Interlaced video (Progressive scan)

The point of 3:2 pulldown is to restore 29.97fps interlaced footage to 23.976fps progressive...so mentioning it at all since the next line mentions progressive and no interlaced is rather redundant.
Deuce Loosely wrote:Okay...so I sent a message to the webmasters saying the following:

* delete mpeg1, XVid avi, and DivX avi
* replace the "no mp4" statement with the following:
"mp4 (must be AAC or h264 compression - no exceptions)"

Does this help? :amv:

Umm...AAC is an audio codec and h264 is a video codec, so you might want to word it "Must be H264 video and AAC Audio", and that would be a good thing. If you really want to be picky about quality, you could require Main or High Profile 4.1 or higher for the video standard, although some quality based encoders might drop to Main Profile 3.1 for some low action 720x480 videos since the quality would be the same and it goes with the lowest needed for that level of compression quality.
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:45 pm

Is there anything else that needs fixing before sending more corrections..?
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby l33tmeatwad » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:54 pm

Deuce Loosely wrote:Is there anything else that needs fixing before sending more corrections..?

You might want to mention if people need to letterbox widescreen videos or not. Other than that it seems legit.
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby Brakus » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:37 pm

Deuce Loosely wrote:
l33tmeatwad wrote:etc etc etc

Thank you for your expert advice or whatever.
It would have been nice if a bit of civility were exercised here.
Also...you couldn't have PM'd this to me?
I appreciate the input but really...


Hate to say this, but most contests are moving on to MP4 submissions, especially with HD video becoming a lot more readily available to editors.

I'm pretty sure l33tm33twad meant it in fun, but contests will need to evolve with the changing technology.

p.s. I do intend to hand you a block of time in Video 1 for the AMV contest winner showings and the NSFW contest. I expect you to be on time for it this year. I do not want 15 minutes of dead time from the beginning of your timeslot.
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby competitionbros » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:51 pm

I have a question about the NSFW contest. One of the rules is "Dubbed sound from licensed commercial translation is NOT allowed." does this mean dubbed anime dialogue etc are not allowed or are things like a sound bite from something like "King of the Hill" not allowed?
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:34 am

competitionbros wrote:I have a question about the NSFW contest. One of the rules is "Dubbed sound from licensed commercial translation is NOT allowed." does this mean dubbed anime dialogue etc are not allowed or are things like a sound bite from something like "King of the Hill" not allowed?

We can allow a snippet or two of dialogue or sound but no more than, say 15 seconds total in terms of the anime itself.
As far as KotH or whatever you're using, used with the anime, it sounds like a parody...something we typically do for our clip-oriented projects.
I'm curious to see what you have in mind and I know my lieutenant / NSFW coordinator is in need of entries. ;)
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Re: KATSUCON 19 AMV Contest: now open!!!

Postby competitionbros » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:06 pm

Alright, I'll definitely Have two vids for the nsfw contest once my computer gets fixed.
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