MimS wrote:Why the hell are you talking about my moral? ._.
I am not. Or at least I wasn't. I was responding to Chained(E)Studio who said:
We ourselves to me are just helping others or aiding in illegal acts and taking the rights of owners away which companies are fighting desperately for.
I strongly, strongly
disagree with this conclusion, and most likely the premises used to construct it. However, if I accept that at least for Chained, there is a violation of ethical standards or laws, then I must inquire as to why Chained still persists. If the answer is, "because I don't care" there is no point in discussing the issue further.
Let's put it simply : I buy animes, I just can't buy them ALL. I love having them, wanna got them all, I just CAN'T, so yeah, it happens I edit animes I don't own, it doesn't mean I have no respect for the author, it just means I don't respect the law and well, these 2 things are clearly different. If I could own every animes I would more than happy.
It's a matter of opportunity cost. I simply do not accept "can't." I accept "choose not to," I accept "won't," but I do not accept that it is fiscally impossible for you to make a decision that you will edit X, Y, and Z video because you can afford to purchase the anime, but you will not edit A, B, or C video because those sources are too expensive for you. I make that decision. If I really must make a video, if it demands that I make it, and all the good ones do, then I feel a responsibility to go out and purchase the source. This might mean that I have to make other purchases in my life a lower priority. We can only have so many guns and so much butter, we can't have all the guns and all the butter.
By the way, even if I do buy animes, I still download them because I don't buy them to "watch" them but because I love them, they're great and I want them as a part of my collection, I don't even open the box unless there are really interesting bonuses in them ._.
I often watch fansubs and then purchase the anime. I built a hackintosh before I switched over to Mac. I have no issues with try before you buy. I firmly believe that should also be recognised under an appropriate and legitimate copyright system. However, watching the entire 26 episode series and never paying into the system? That I have an issue with. However, that is an altogether other issue. Here I am talking strictly about purchasing source used in transformative, derivative works. The fact that you may choose to download the source after already purchasing it is really irrelevant. Whether you rip it or someone else does, it's not really what I'm talking about as having an ethical issue with. You paid for a copy. That you don't open it and rip it yourself doesn't change the fact you've paid into the system already. You're covered, in my view.
Or maybe you want a link to my collection to convince you?
Unnecessary. You're the one (along with Chained) who suggested we're all pirates. If an editor tells me that she purchased the sources used in the video, I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt. If, on the other hand, she comes out and says she downloaded the footage without paying into the system, then she's going to hear about. Quite vociferously. And not just by me. It's the cardinal rule of the Org. This is nothing new.
And, not even considering my case, put a lot of french editor in "your editors with no-moral" list 'cause, believe me, most of them don't really give a fuck about animes and, compared to them, I really, really, don't feel guilty at all
Again, the comment about a moral compass was not directed at you. And all I can say is, if all the French editors jumped off a bridge, would you? Sounds a lot cooler now when I get to ask it than when I had to answer it as a nine year old...