How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby ReggieSmalls » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:09 pm

macchinainterna wrote:"How has the hobby made a difference in your life?" Well to sum it up my ass got even fatter, I watched a ton of awful animes to come up with ideas for mediocre videos I never finished, and now I can't listen to music anymore without obsessively thinking about how I can sync it up and what to sync it up with.

"If AMV's are a form of Communication. What do they Communicate?" Lens flares and shaky cam or GTFO. :bear:


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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby AMV_4000 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:29 pm

I have been making amvs since 1999... and as applejack once said... I didn't learn anything!

On a serious note, I have grown up with amvs as a part of my life.. they helpped me to be creative and funny and stupid, even when I was all alone I always had my videos! I have made so many friends because of this, and I've gotten the confidence to put myself out there and do things! Amvs have been in half of my life.. I've become a better person because of this hobby.
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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:32 pm

@Atari: For sure :up: You hear it time and time again, that the people you encounter and the hobby as a whole let you see things about yourself that you otherwise wouldn't see, or in some cases admit to (ie. "I like this stuff. Why wouldn't I do something about it?"). And I like hearing those stories, so thanks for sharing.

@Castor: After reading your guide, So you want to be a "Professional Editor"? Read this first, all I can say is thank you. :book:

@ng: do keep us updated :)

@Code: Hey, you're not the only one that feels some sense of purpose here. Through the guides/stuff I've written; to the help I try to give in the tech forum; it really is about sharing the same sense of happiness with others that we all feel/felt at some point in the hobby [that was a hint for those that want to answer the last question]. Just don't burn yourself out buddy. You're not alone. The division of work and play is my way of coping. I also really like your take on what AMV's communicate :wink:

@macchinainterna/ReggieSmalls: lol it had to be said XD

@AMV_4000: You know, you're one of the more interesting people I've seen on these boards. You've been around for a while --much longer than me-- so one of these days I'd like to hear your whole story, if you have the time of course. I certainly don't want to impose.
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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby lloyd9988 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:15 pm

ReggieSmalls wrote:
macchinainterna wrote:"How has the hobby made a difference in your life?" Well to sum it up my ass got even fatter, I watched a ton of awful animes to come up with ideas for mediocre videos I never finished, and now I can't listen to music anymore without obsessively thinking about how I can sync it up and what to sync it up with.

"If AMV's are a form of Communication. What do they Communicate?" Lens flares and shaky cam or GTFO. :bear:


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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby TritioAFB » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:14 pm

"How has the hobby made a difference in your life?"

I will say it: I've never been the same after I first entered into the AMV World.
Everytime I go out it's like I can see several concepts through the different situations I have to deal with. Everywhere I go it's like the people gets interested into what I actually do with the anime. I just want to know why since I never considered myself as an experienced editor or someone I should be asked about the hobby itself, but people still comes to me. Who knows

At my work, If people doesn't know my name, they simply call me as Tritio, since my editor name is applied also as my nick too. Or even the patients themselves, refer me as the Doctor Tritio since in my own consultory, the word Tritio can be seen with this slogan:

'Look for Tritio if you have questions' -This is because several doctors works also at my consultary too-

If it weren't thanks to this hobby, I would have probably never had this Nick, since the nick came from the AMV-Making.
Also, I would have probably never met my own russian brothers, since I was a former from the russian communities.

The hobby for itself has taught me several lessons. The most important is: If you fail in the funny things like the AMV-Making, how do you expect to succeed in the serious things like Job and Studies?
Or: If you want to improve, you should understand first, the concept of 'Sacrifice'

I even met other editors, like jubjub2. Thanks to this Hobby, I was able to meet the rest of editors. In fact I wonder how my life would have been without the hobby. Thanks to my collaboration the anime has finally started to be accepted again in a country where the censorship really hurted the conception about the anime. Moreover, being also considered a kind of inspiration by the newcomers from my own country was something I would have never thought it would happened to me. Even in the anime fests hosted here being asked to sign shirts or being asked to appear in photos as the 'AMV Tutor'....

All of that since I was 12 years old when I first 'made' an AMV, and almost 10 years later... even if I start forgetting the anime and the AMVs thanks to my Job, I guess it brought me interesting stories.

"AMV's (and the Hobby as a whole) use the above concept on so many levels. How?"

I'll say something:

This is not like the Hobby will stay in a certain level. This hobby will and always continue to evolve, every year, nor, every month, every day.
Those editors that do not progress or at least try to update about what's new in the hobby, will get themselves into a 'same level' that unfortunately will not let them reach a higher improvement.

We should be 'Objective' everytime we tend to criticize a video, even when the 'subjective' component will always pop up.
The success behind a video is not if the video has lots of effects, or a new plot. It's all about its ability to entertain the audience. After all, that's the final purpose of this hobby: Entertainment.

"If AMV's are a form of Communication. What do they Communicate?"

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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby Hopstep » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:30 am

lloyd9988 wrote:
ReggieSmalls wrote:
macchinainterna wrote:"How has the hobby made a difference in your life?" Well to sum it up my ass got even fatter, I watched a ton of awful animes to come up with ideas for mediocre videos I never finished, and now I can't listen to music anymore without obsessively thinking about how I can sync it up and what to sync it up with.

"If AMV's are a form of Communication. What do they Communicate?" Lens flares and shaky cam or GTFO. :bear:


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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby lloyd9988 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:55 am

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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:50 pm

@TritioAFB: Yeah, becoming a mentor of sorts is tough, but you and I both know that when you see the happiness it brings to others, it's worth it. As long as we don't give too much of ourselves, and just recognize that lines need to be drawn sometimes. I mean, if you are already a doctor, there's only so much you can give. But people still appreciate the small things, and that's something everyone can give. A simple comment here and there can make all the difference in the world, so that we learn how to truly communicate; and become better people in the end.

I fully agree with your views on Entertainment. I was watching The Boondocks the other day, and this sums up my thoughts:
    "The best artists aren't the ones who paint the best, but
    rather the ones who choose the best things to paint."



TritioAFB wrote:"If AMV's are a form of Communication. What do they Communicate?"
AMVs are a reflection of the soul and mind of the editor
This is soooo close to my answer, similar to what Code said. But I won't tell you guys what I think yet. Not until more people make an attempt. Hint: The answer is something that ALL amv's communicate.

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macchinainterna wrote:Well to sum it up my ass got even fatter, I watched a ton of awful animes to come up with ideas for mediocre videos I never finished, and now I can't listen to music anymore without obsessively thinking about how I can sync it up and what to sync it up with.
Okay, let's address this issue. You are clearly not the only one where this hobby has turned footage and music (basically all forms of media) into sources for remixing. But at the same time, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, especially if you can "Turn it off." For me, sure it's a little annoying, but if I just make the conscious effort to enjoy what I am watching or listening to, I find I am able to do that. All it takes is a change of mind, and it's surprising how much happiness I can give myself. I remember what it's like to be entertained; I remember what it's like to be part of the audience once again. I don't know how other people cope, but consuming audio/video does not always have to be about searching for sources in a music video. That's one change that took me the longest time to reconcile, but I can't be the only one that has found ways around it.
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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby ibabrak » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:00 pm

Let's see, considering that the hobby is both anime and editting...

I decided on what collage I'll go to.
I took up kick box, now I'm doing acrobatics (Well, I wanted to do some martial arts due to all kinds of action movies but I never really did any until I got to watching anime/editting).
I returned to learning the piano .
I'm going to japanese language courses.
And I started to workout so instead of getting fatter I became the oposite. Well, I've always had quick digesting so I never was really fat but I have some muscles now :sweat:

That all come in only year and a half and there will surely be moar :awesome:
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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby macchinainterna » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:06 pm

Phantasmagoriat wrote:
macchinainterna wrote:Well to sum it up my ass got even fatter, I watched a ton of awful animes to come up with ideas for mediocre videos I never finished, and now I can't listen to music anymore without obsessively thinking about how I can sync it up and what to sync it up with.
Okay, let's address this issue. You are clearly not the only one where this hobby has turned footage and music (basically all forms of media) into sources for remixing. But at the same time, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, especially if you can "Turn it off." For me, sure it's a little annoying, but if I just make the conscious effort to enjoy what I am watching or listening to, I find I am able to do that. All it takes is a change of mind, and it's surprising how much happiness I can give myself. I remember what it's like to be entertained; I remember what it's like to be part of the audience once again. I don't know how other people cope, but consuming audio/video does not always have to be about searching for sources in a music video. That's one change that took me the longest time to reconcile, but I can't be the only one that has found ways around it.


Okay, let's address THIS issue.

YOU ARE TAKING MY OBVIOUS SHIT-POSTING WAY TOO SERIOUSLY. ಠ_ಠ
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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:53 pm

@ibabrak: on those points, the hobby serves as a way to bring together some of the things you like; which is an idea that sometimes extends to the rest of your life. |:>

@macchinainterna: if there was no truth in it (at least at some point that you have realized in yourself or others) why would you post it? You know things about the hobby that you want to share with others, and that's not something to be weirded out by. Now, your words of caution are out there... regardless of whether any of it is true for yourself... I simply expanded on them. Now, don't you think it's better to talk about that shit, as opposed to not talking about it? There are REAL issues surrounding the hobby that people simply don't talk about. And it's a shame. Like for me, there has always been this strange semi-addictive property to the hobby; that sometimes could be damaging to my life, if I wasn't careful. It sometimes devolves into a sort of obsession... if you don't make clear division between working and simply having fun. But if nobody talks about that shit, those issues can go unchecked, at least in some people.

So, shit post or not, isn't it still better to talk about it :?:
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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby Emong » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:04 pm

Phantasmagoriat wrote:"If AMV's are a form of Communication. What do they Communicate?"

I wouldn't exactly say that my amvs (or lamvs) express my "mind and soul" (as Tritio put it). Of course, in a trivial way, editors produce amvs in their own ways and may develop very unique styles and whatnot. But I have two points. First, to say that what you do reflects your own deepest self or whatever underestimates the "superficial" aspect of editing (or any form of creativity). Probably no one puts all their effort and heart into their production all the time. Second, and more importantly, amvs (or any other creative field) is a collective phenomenon. That is to say, you're always more or less influenced by everyone else and their works. In the style of the good ol' Soviet Russia jokes: you may think you edit amvs but, when you enter into the community of editors, amvs also edit you.

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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:11 pm

@Emong: your two points are very good. For the first point yes: I think in AMV's there is a certain reflection of something deeper; or sometimes not deep; yet there is still that sense of wanting to share it (even if in some cases, sharing is just an afterthought). On your second point, the word "collective" is very appropriate when it comes to AMVs. It illustrates the interconnectedness everything has, especially when you consider the influences that went into constructing your AMV; through other editors, or advice you may have received. Much the same as musicians always draw on the influences of other musicians.

Emong wrote:In the style of the good ol' Soviet Russia jokes: you may think you edit amvs but, when you enter into the community of editors, amvs also edit you.
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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby Glitzer » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:38 pm

How fitting it is, reading your invigorating words about your relationship with your dad today, on Father's Day. I can't help but try and emulate your attitude, and I shall attempt to give a heartfelt honoring of my own father after this post.

As for AMVs, it's fascinating to read how many of the replies parallel my own experience. The disheartening result is that I may have nothing to contribute, however.

AMVs started out as something I felt I had to conquer. I've never had any kind of musical intelligence or creative aptitude, and my first AMV in 2007 was so poorly done, I felt ashamed enough as to go into lurk mode for years. Whenever I read the guides, I felt like I was drowning in a sea of technical babble, and my laptop was woefully inadequate to keep up with my usually unclear concepts.

After I rose out of my self-imposed humiliation, I was determined to at least get some technical aspects down. What I found was my preconceived notion of the community being dismissive and discouraging to be false and in reality to be quite welcoming. I'm usually a socially avoidant person, and during my first proper foray into AMV making, the org helped shatter my bubble and change my schema for the better.

What's most interesting to me with AMVs, is how they build on each other. Rarely, I think, are our styles entirely our own. We are a product of the communities we participate in, and to share and participate in said communities gives me solidarity I can't readily imitate elsewhere. When someone creates a meaningful AMV, it may inspire the immediate audience to mimic or equal it, who then may create works which in turn inspire others, therefore, it is almost impossible to see where your influence stops.

As for the communication aspect, what I try and convey in my AMVs is experience. When a meaningful concept hits me over the head, I want to materialize all of my feelings that went into that initial experience, to share with others. Now when the end result is realized, whether the concept is clear or not is entirely another story (perhaps this is why at times criticism is so hard to take. If someone earnestly tries to share an experience, and it's met with intense judgement, one may confuse that with apathy or even disapproval). With some sadness to say, I think it's impossible to truly understand each other. AMVs do give the opportunity to peer into someone else's mind across time and space though, if even for a moment. This binds us, and allows us to share a common experience. At the risk of sounding cheesey, AMVs in this regard can work magic.
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Re: How has the hobby made a difference in your life?

Postby [madaraxD] » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:01 pm

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