The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby lloyd9988 » Tue May 15, 2012 8:51 pm

>.>

How about this. . . We think of AMVs as "Fanvids". Then, when someone starts getting paid to make AMVs, then we start calling it "Art". Until then, how about we just avoid the subject entirely ^_^
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby TritioAFB » Tue May 15, 2012 8:54 pm

Conclusion: forget about the Art matter, focus in the Chiikaboom interview, stop spamming the thread and just go and watch some AMVs.
And everybody lived happily... Excepting for Shin since nobody has answered his question >.<
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby Radical_Yue » Tue May 15, 2012 9:02 pm

Are AMVs art?


I unno. You tell me. This conversation has happened multiple times and I've never found a good damn reason to read through it.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby SheeGee » Tue May 15, 2012 9:19 pm

LOL this episode of the Lip Flapper seems a lil controversial xP

Still nice read though! I've always been a fan of you Chii and it's great getting a chance to know you're point of view and AMVs. Even though you've been editing for so many years, you still stick to the root reason of why you edit and I will still continue to look up to you! <3
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby GuntherAMVs » Tue May 15, 2012 9:29 pm

If I could leave an actual comment, I would.
But all I can seem to do is just fangirl, fangirl, fangirl <3 <3 <3
CHII~! You're my hero ^w^
All your advice makes so much sense :3
Thanks for being such an inspiration~ x3
Ah, I'll stop fangirling now =>=... *is embarrassed.. sinks into floor xDD*
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby xDreww » Tue May 15, 2012 9:31 pm

Pretty much agree with chii 100% with everything she says. I'm sure you know this chii, with all our late night talks/rants.
Your one of my favorite people to rant too, This is the love we share <3 :aimkissyface: LOL
I could say my opinions on the whole art/editing to animes you never seen/ the org community. Though I wont start a fuss.

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Honestly though, edit whatever the hell you want. Dont let people tell you how you should edit. When people offer advice, dont ignore it, but dont take what anyone says about your videos to heart. Dont stress about trying to be a good editor, just edit what you love and you will naturally improve over time.


This x1000. And...for also not taking editing so seriously. Which I seen so much lately.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby EimiJ7 » Tue May 15, 2012 9:52 pm

GuntherAMVs wrote:If I could leave an actual comment, I would.
But all I can seem to do is just fangirl, fangirl, fangirl <3 <3 <3
CHII~! You're my hero ^w^
All your advice makes so much sense :3
Thanks for being such an inspiration~ x3
Ah, I'll stop fangirling now =>=... *is embarrassed.. sinks into floor xDD*

I agree with Gunther, Chii is awesome! I stalk her on youtube :roll:

and I guess to put my two cents in... I am a huge anime fan and usually make videos with anime I love, but I also enjoy artistic videos with deep concepts and whatnot. I don't think it has to be one or the other, in fact I think there are many artistic and deep amvs that are also made because of the creator's love for the music/anime combo.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby Chiikaboom » Tue May 15, 2012 11:46 pm

Ileia wrote:Even just in this thread, you're so not in the minority, I'm not sure where you're getting that idea, aside from my one post. :p


Besides Kazemon and Bashar's comments, Shin admits to editing with anime he dislikes/hasn't seen, siny says its "more" fun, and Code says its something editors "should" do from time to time. Maybe I read too much into it since i've always thought editing with anime you enjoy was the standard? Which is what i thought was the point of amvs. -shrug- Thread comments aside I still know of several people who edit for the same reason you do, and because the org is still more focused on the video/technical things and less on the anime is why I still feel like the minority. Or maybe i'm just old fashioned? ;p

Shin-AMV wrote:will someone please think of the aardvarks!? ;_;


Its too late THEY'VE ALL BEEN FLENDED

SheeGee wrote:LOL this episode of the Lip Flapper seems a lil controversial xP


Ehh I dont think its 'controversial'. I try to not bring up the whole amv =/= art thing but it was kind of difficult considering the point of the interview. Besides i'd like to avoid drama at all costs haha.

Thanks everybody for the comments though! ;^; brightened up my day ^/////^
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby Arigatomina » Tue May 15, 2012 11:48 pm

Chiikaboom wrote:The fact that a person like me who loves anime and makes amvs and wants to see her favorite scenes to good music is such a rare thing here makes me wonder why this site is called animemusicvideos.org.

I've been bemoaning the lack of emphasis on anime here for years. Most of my favorite anime-centric editors are long gone and I miss them dearly. I'm glad you found a place on the tube and that you've continued to enjoy the hobby for so long.

Ileia wrote:Even just in this thread, you're so not in the minority, I'm not sure where you're getting that idea, aside from my one post. :p

The org as a whole gives that impression. Each time there's a thread about 'motivation' you get people speaking up for both sides - but most of the time you can clearly see that the ones doing it for the love of editing are the ones still posting vids here, while the ones doing it for love of anime are either retired or mostly sharing on youtube because that's where the anime fans are. This thread has people speaking up in agreement since she broached the issue, but I bet even the ones agreeing with her are feeling twinges right now. I know I'm feeling a twinge of hopelessness for the org because when one of its own accomplished editors is saying the tube is a better place for anime fans, then there's not much future for the org as an "anime" music video community. It's depressing...and quiet. The org is too d*mn quiet these days without the rabid fanboys and fangirls bouncing around the place. Yeah, they're annoying, but they wake the oldtimers up and breathe new life into the place, and the hobby needs that. In my opinion.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby ngsilver » Wed May 16, 2012 1:14 am

Nice to hear from Chii after so many years. I don't troll youtube as much as I should (and when I do it tends to be pony videos or for music) and it's cool to hear her views on thing hobby.

Personally, since most everyone else has weighed in on this so far so why not, I would say rather then editing as a fan or for this 'art' or love of the task of editing, I edit because I'm a fan of AMVs. I got into editing because I wanted to put the same kind of videos I enjoyed out there for others to enjoy, and I wanted to see more of my favorite kind of videos. I suppose in a way I still want to 'hone' my technique and make my videos look better, but I do primarily edit in a style that is very much dated, or at least old if not actually old school. My favorite (and the ones I had the most fun working with) vids I've done do tend to be using some of my favorite shows, but I've done quite a few videos using anime I've never seen as well.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby Ileia » Wed May 16, 2012 1:15 am

Arigatomina wrote:
Ileia wrote:Even just in this thread, you're so not in the minority, I'm not sure where you're getting that idea, aside from my one post. :p

The org as a whole gives that impression.


Yeah, I suppose I can agree with that to a certain degree, but I don't think the Org is really all that devoid of "actual anime fans". I think it's similar to what Bashar said, we have both extremes and everything in-between, there is no wrong way to eat a Reese's to enjoy this hobby.* I actually get way more comments here about the anime I used than any other aspect of my videos ("Sweet, I love *blank*!" and "Holy crap, I need to watch this anime now!"). I get PMs asking my opinion on anime I've used in AMVs, and I get asked for recommendations on a fairly regular basis. Those fans are still out there, perhaps they're quiet, but they're not completely silent. The amount of comments has actually always made me feel like a minority for not being really into about the anime aspect of the AMV-editing. And, really, I think the Org being quiet is due to many other factors, but that's for another thread. :uhoh:


*To clarify, I do enjoy some anime, there are some that I even love and make videos with from time to time, I'm not all "booo anime sucks" I just wouldn't call myself an anime fan.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby Shin-AMV » Wed May 16, 2012 1:27 am

Chiikaboom wrote:
Shin-AMV wrote:will someone please think of the aardvarks!? ;_;


Its too late THEY'VE ALL BEEN FLENDED



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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby Rider4Z » Wed May 16, 2012 1:38 am

good read chiikaboom :up: you got balls. (i know she doesn't have balls, so shut up)
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby ibabrak » Wed May 16, 2012 3:19 am

I loved the interview as well as your opinions :awesome:
I'm not sure what I edit for. I edit because I love the show... in like 2/3 on timeline I get sick of editting that stuff but I love what I've already editted so I just finish it. But yeah, I have to agree, if you don't love the show can you make an awesome video and put everything you got into it.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Postby kireblue » Wed May 16, 2012 6:31 am

I edit because I love the combinations. Almost all of my videos were made simply because I felt that a particular anime was so perfect for the song I choose, that it had to be done.

Oh and, thanks Code and Chiikaboom for taking the time to do this interview. Chiikaboom is probably the most well known and respected editor of all time, so its always nice to hear her opinion on things.
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