Round 1 - Results [Updated with Group F & H Results]

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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby Copycat_Revolver » Thu May 10, 2012 4:51 pm

Radical_Yue wrote:No, no, no....You're ALL WRONG!

The real problem here is....

Where was the Diebuster video!?

You know, I have Diebuster in my pile of encoded footage. It could have been...
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby dazza1008 » Thu May 10, 2012 4:53 pm

A good idea to stick to one character, but this was really not resolved in any way. It seemed like this either ran out of scenes, or simply cut off. The pacing was also rather off - seemed like the video was much slower than the song.

Ummm... okay, shots of Misa? I guess you should use more than some five or six scenes in an AMV, you know. Props for having some kind of a story~

The editor probably tried to say/do something with the scene selection here. I honestly wouldn't be able to tell what, though. I didn't really see much connection. I mean, some scenes on their own had lyrical sync, sure. But it overall didn't come off together very well. The beat sync was very minimal as well, and with this level of beat sync I'd expect some more overarching story/plot/meaning/something, but I couldn't really find anything like that to compensate, thus it felt, well, "meh."

Concept 5/10 : I like the idea and the lyrich synch was ok
Technical 3/10: Visual quality was bad,and has many issues
Sound 4/10 : Nop.. bad audio cut and bad ending but still better than some others so i'll give it a 4
Sync 4/10 : Could be much better synchwise and the pace is not changing enough arcoding to the music
Effort 4/10 : This lacks a lot of effort to be interesting to watch...
Overall 3.9/10: The result from all my ratings is 4/10 and i'll give it a malus of 0.1 because it has the same mark as an another amv which i find better than this one in terme of editing. But you need to practise a bit more, keep it up


TBH this seems like one judge wrote this... I thought Radical was getting comments from all judges? Anyway, I'm used to doing storyline AMVs as opposed to ones that rely on effects... so 'starry eyed' was from Misa falling in love, to Light's ambition and how it ruins Misa's life, to Misa committing suicide at the end by jumping off a bridge. It seemed clear to me, but I'll take on board if it wasn't clear to others and think about how I could have conveyed that better. I disagree about the sync being too slow - I thought it was a slow song and I guess I was going for more mood sync. I'm not going to increase the number of scenes just for the heck of it, but I'd be doing the effects when she's reflecting while walking near the end. That looked rather amateurish and would be better for more effects. I honestly didn't see this as a dance song/faster song! Cheers for the feedback. :beer:

Masterzero8, firstly, I do find it easier to expect people to be really harsh here and not emotionally supportive. The fact that you're getting a lot of people coming to your defense is surprising to me, and I really think it's something you should be grateful for, especially from this place. Personally I tolerate it because it's interesting for me to learn and consider others' viewpoints, even though at the end, it's simply another opinion. (try to please everyone, and you please no one, not even yourself!) So I consider feedback, but it's got to make sense to me or feel right to me before I take it on board. And I do believe that's how artists should be, since art comes from within... can't all be about pleasing people, and people do have different preferences... anyway, eventually the sting of criticism fades and you can see it comfortably as yet another opinion - that's if you stick around long enough, which I hope you do. :wink:

To whoever's writing the feedback, I don't think labelling something as "worst of the bunch" helps at all because it's too general esp. because this is a first AMV, and your review wouldn't have suffered if that line was removed.

Congrats to those who passed, and thanks to the judges for their time! :jester:
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby GuntherAMVs » Thu May 10, 2012 4:54 pm

*sprinkles confetti around Org interface*

Congratulations to all the Group A participants <3
Each of you made something from the heart, which is what counts :3
You all rolled with the punches~! (like this -----> :rofl: )
And you rose to the call of duty~! (which sounded like this, probably ----> :bzz: )

So now, all of you can do this~ -----> :bear:

. . . . =w=
LIVE YOUR ART. LOVE YOUR LIFE.
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby Radical_Yue » Thu May 10, 2012 5:01 pm

dazza1008 wrote:TBH this seems like one judge wrote this... I thought Radical was getting comments from all judges?


Every space

is a string of comments from another judge. One of the judges did not choose to leave comments.
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby Radical_Yue » Thu May 10, 2012 5:10 pm

Since it seems that people are having problems taking the criticism our judges offered, I'll just take it down.
Future judges thoughts will not be posted for this very same reason. Neither the judges or myself have meant to "flame" in any, way, shape or form. They simply stated their opinion with absolutely no personal bias.

When I selected the judges, I chose judges who would be honest, not rate of a scale from awesome - less awesome.
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby meleechampion » Thu May 10, 2012 5:13 pm

NO. WRONG. DAMNIT PEOPLE.

*sigh*

Can't we just... give and take both a little bit on each side?

Judges, keep in mind you're judging real people.
Editors, don't be so offended.
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby Kairih » Thu May 10, 2012 5:28 pm

try to please everyone, and you please no one, not even yourself!


I guess this is all you need to know. :)
Enjoy yourself guys! It's right to get some discordant opinion about a video, and truthful opinion are also there to teach you something...
That...
YOU'LL KICK THEIR ASS NEXT TIME.
Ahhahahahah, I'm joking. :P
What I really mean is "don't take it too seriously!". We're all here to have fun!

Since it seems that people are having problems taking the criticism our judges offered, I'll just take it down.


Aww, too bad, I would love to know the opinion about my video. Oh well. :P
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby Radical_Yue » Thu May 10, 2012 5:30 pm

Kairih wrote:
Since it seems that people are having problems taking the criticism our judges offered, I'll just take it down.


Aww, too bad, I would love to know the opinion about my video. Oh well. :P



If anyone wishes to know what the judges had to say, simply message me and I'll be more than happy to share their comments.

But other than that, I don't need to hear 64 people trying to justify their work against the judge's comments.
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby Kairih » Thu May 10, 2012 5:33 pm

Radical_Yue wrote:If anyone wishes to know what the judges had to say, simply message me and I'll be more than happy to share their comments.

But other than that, I don't need to hear 64 people trying to justify their work against the judges comments.


Oh, that's perfect. :D Alright, I'll send you a PM when group b results will be out.
And don't worry, I perfectly understand your point. :3
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby meleechampion » Thu May 10, 2012 5:48 pm

But when I PM you for comments I'm still going to bitch. :D
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby Radical_Yue » Thu May 10, 2012 5:50 pm

meleechampion wrote:But when I PM you for comments I'm still going to bitch. :D



That's fine with me. :3 At least you won't be making a mess all over a public forum that is supposed to be used for other things. Bitch 'til your heart's content <3
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby ngsilver » Thu May 10, 2012 5:58 pm

I was wondering where these comments were that everyone was talking about.... and you can bet I'll be sending a PM to get the comments on my vid after the results are in. I know I'm awesome and obviously 20% cooler then the rest of you so no comment going to bring me down :A

Congrats to the winners!
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby Otohiko » Thu May 10, 2012 6:07 pm

Radical_Yue wrote:Since it seems that people are having problems taking the criticism our judges offered, I'll just take it down..


Hey, don't do that. And if you're not gonna post the comments, I'll post mine on my own.

BTW, in this round, the first set of comments was mine. If the comments sounded like they were all written by one judge, then I think that would be a compliment to the consistency of our judging and clear criteria. Obviously we didn't agree on everything, but as far as I see the standard of judging is pretty equal among everyone. That's a good thing.

Masterzero8:
Hey, don't get discouraged! I didn't even know this was your first AMV - and while the feedback may have been harsh, you really have done a good job in a competitive environment. But remember that our job here is to judge - that is, if videos are going to go forward or get eliminated, we better have darn good reasons for it. Because it's a contest, we have to be sharp and critical, or we'd never decide anything. If you're looking for more encouraging and constructive feedback, this might not be the best place. If you're looking to test yourself against more experienced editors (which many in the Quickening are), unfortunately you might have to expect this.

That said, again, I think you have nothing to be ashamed of - can't win them all, but you did a good job and competed. That's already worth commending!
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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby irriadin » Thu May 10, 2012 6:14 pm

Radical_Yue wrote:No, no, no....You're ALL WRONG!

The real problem here is....

Where was the Diebuster video!?

Quoted Image converted to link:
http://miotd.com/images/20080731.jpg

Starry Eyed? Eh? EH? :awesome:


Also,

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Re: Round 1 - Results

Postby Animated » Thu May 10, 2012 6:20 pm

ngsilver wrote:I was wondering where these comments were that everyone was talking about..


Me too. It's our duty to withstand harsh criticism, anyway. Why even bother to make a video if you're not ready to hear everyone's opinion? Nobody's perfect and the judges have a reason to give you low ratings, if that's the case. At least I want to hear my video's criticism...
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