Which program is better for masking?

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Which program is better for masking?

Post by MetamorphosisStudios » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:52 pm

Adobe After Effects CS5, Premiere Pro CS5, or Sony Vegas 10 Pro?
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Post by Niotex » Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:15 am

After Effects.
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Post by Mrs_Uzumaki » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:48 pm

i'd say sony vegas pro definately, it's simple and easy.

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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Post by Radical_Yue » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:20 pm

Speaking as a Vegas user who only does masking in Vegas...After Effects is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

I mean, if you're just going to do something quick and dirty, sure Vegas can work. But if you plan on doing a lot of roto'ing and want it to look really good, AE is the way to go, hands down. The level of customization AE offers is insane. With Vegas, you can't even create an outline without having to do a workaround with another track + different effects and stuff.

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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Post by Kanti13 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:13 pm

AFTER EFFECTS! :up:

My biggest problem with Vegas is that nomatter how good your footage and computer are, the preview just can't seem to keep up with frame by frame changes. Even if it looks perfect, when you export it there's lag some place or another and looks awful. When I do mask in Vegas, I take a screen shot of each frame, put them in the timeline and cut them down, then mask them each individually (mask the first one, copy-paste-adjust). It's the only way I can get it accurate :amv:

Plus, like Radical said. You can't really do much with your mask in Vegas. Although you can add a quick glow or drop shadow by using track-motion. I also think that it's easier and more straight-forward on AE as long as you have a basic understanding of the software.

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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Post by SuijinReflx » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:14 am

As the majority as said, After effects is the way to go, instead of creating tedious points and making massive amounts of different types of keyframes (smooth and fast) After effect's keyframes are far easier to control and After Effects also offers a nice supply options for each mask. Enjoy :bear:
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Post by Mister Hatt » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:13 am

Photoshop+Avisynth, don't be a wimp. You can do some crazy hax with Mocha, perl, and avisynth too if you're more masochistic than I am :3

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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Post by Cannonaire » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:14 am

Mister Hatt wrote:Photoshop+Avisynth, don't be a wimp. You can do some crazy hax with Mocha, perl, and avisynth too if you're more masochistic than I am :3
I made this script for my Supersonic Gene video when I knew a lot less about Avisynth and NLEs. It makes the piano keys-like effect for the "ooh ooh ooh" part. Somehow, I believe this is still far less hardcore than what Mister Hatt is talking about.
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DGDecode_MPEG2Source("K:\video_rip\outlaw_star\e11.d2v")
KillAudio()
#TComb(mode=1, fthreshC=20, othreshC=18, map=false, scthresh=12.0, debug=false, opt=4)
AMVIVTC(mode=1)
TComb(mode=1, fthreshC=20, othreshC=18, map=false, scthresh=12.0, debug=false, opt=4)
DFMDeRainbow(maskthresh=15, mask=false)
Deblock(quant=25, aOffset=0, bOffset=0, mmx=true, isse=true)
MCTemporalDenoise(settings="medium")
LSFMod(strength=60)
#gradfun2dbmod(temp=100)
Trim(25983, 26529)
#ChangeFPS("ntsc_film")
#AssumeFPS("ntsc_film")
ConvertToRGB32(interlaced=false)
Crop(6, 0, -10, -0)
Spline36Resize(640, 480, src_width=704, src_height=480)
full = last

aa = full.Trim(347, 357)
aa = aa.Spline36Resize(517, 388, src_width=640, src_height=480)
aa = aa.Crop(141, 0, -174, -0)
aa = aa.AddBorders(8, 72, 0, 20, color=$000000)

vida = aa.AddBorders(0, 0, 430, 0, color=$000000)

ba = full.Trim(357, 357)
ba = ba.Spline36Resize(517, 388, src_width=640, src_height=480)
ba = ba.Crop(141, 0, -174, -0)
ba = ba.AddBorders(8, 72, 0, 20, color=$000000)

bb = Full.Trim(252, 261)
bb = bb.Crop(26, 40, -102, -158)
bb = bb.Spline36Resize(414, 228, src_width=512, src_height=282)
bb = bb.AddBorders(8, 8, 8, 0, color=$000000)

vidb = bb.AddBorders(0, 0, 0, 244, color=$000000)
vidb = StackHorizontal(ba, vidb)

ca = full.Trim(357, 357)
ca = ca.Spline36Resize(517, 388, src_width=640, src_height=480)
ca = ca.Crop(141, 0, -174, -0)
ca = ca.AddBorders(8, 72, 0, 20, color=$000000)

cb = Full.Trim(262, 262)
cb = cb.Crop(26, 40, -102, -158)
cb = cb.Spline36Resize(414, 228, src_width=512, src_height=282)
cb = cb.AddBorders(8, 8, 8, 0, color=$000000)

cc = full.Trim(139, 194)
cc = cc.Crop(26, 40, -102, -158)
cc = cc.Spline36Resize(414, 228, src_width=512, src_height=282)
cc = cc.AddBorders(8, 8, 8, 8, color=$000000)

vidc = StackVertical(cb, cc)
vidc = StackHorizontal(ca, vidc)

return vida+vidb+vidc
#return vida
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Post by Brad » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:02 pm

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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Post by DJ_Izumi » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:05 pm

My roommate has a Cintiq 21UX, a $2000 1600x1200 drawing tablet.

I've often wondered how it'd be to use that to mask in AE instead of using the fscking mouse.
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