The Anime Boston prescreenings

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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby Songbird21 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:22 am

I still think the prescreenings should be done over two days. That way people aren't so burnt out by the end.
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby Warlike Swans » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:07 am

kiarrens wrote:I'll weigh in here from my perspective as a contest coordinator.

Last year I tried something with my pre-screening. We had about 10 people and 100 videos to go through. It was a dry event. In the interest of the sanity of my pre-screeners, I instated a rule that if they UNANIMOUSLY voted to skip a video (it had to be REALLY bad), that video would receive a 0 score and be skipped.



That sounds like a good approach, if only so that the pre-screeners don't feel helplessly chained in to watching torturously bad videos.

Songbird21 wrote:I still think the prescreenings should be done over two days. That way people aren't so burnt out by the end.

This would probably lead to logistical problems.
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby xDreww » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:31 pm

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Also, I'm splitting the room on friday/saturday, but its just me on Thursday. So if you're still in need for a place for just Thursday night, send me a PM.
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xDreww wrote:Honesty, in my opinion. The "Audience" Which are also the "viewers" Majority of them vote for their favorite anime/song and don't really look into another video that took part in that one category, or the other, which had a lot more feeling into the winner, or finalist. I still think if you have a popular song, you'll make it, or and win. That's just me. Seen it happen plenty of times, which kind of sucks. Can't blame the viewers to not know anything about an actually concept for an AMV. About the judges who decide what videos make it to the finals. I don't even know.
I find your contempt for your audience and condescending to them rather deplorable. I thought this last year when you complained on the AB thread and I still think it now; you just sound like sour grapes.



Nope not really. I'm just saying the facts.
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby kiarrens » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:41 pm

xDreww wrote:Nope not really. I'm just saying the facts.

That an audience choice award is chosen by the convention audience? Yes, that is an indisputable fact.
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby l33tmeatwad » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:13 pm

xDreww wrote:
drewaconclusion wrote:
xDreww wrote:Honesty, in my opinion. The "Audience" Which are also the "viewers" Majority of them vote for their favorite anime/song and don't really look into another video that took part in that one category, or the other, which had a lot more feeling into the winner, or finalist. I still think if you have a popular song, you'll make it, or and win. That's just me. Seen it happen plenty of times, which kind of sucks. Can't blame the viewers to not know anything about an actually concept for an AMV. About the judges who decide what videos make it to the finals. I don't even know.
I find your contempt for your audience and condescending to them rather deplorable. I thought this last year when you complained on the AB thread and I still think it now; you just sound like sour grapes.



Nope not really. I'm just saying the facts.


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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby Warlike Swans » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:46 pm

l33tmeatwad wrote:
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby Songbird21 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:50 pm

Warlike Swans wrote:This would probably lead to logistical problems.

How so?
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby l33tmeatwad » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:53 pm

Songbird21 wrote:
Warlike Swans wrote:This would probably lead to logistical problems.

How so?

Finding TWO days where that many people can come. If you don't have everyone return, then the results are skewed, or you have to throw out some of the scoring.
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby Songbird21 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:13 pm

Hmmm. Well, what about halving the prescreeners then? Have half of them show up on each day.
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby l33tmeatwad » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:16 pm

Songbird21 wrote:Hmmm. Well, what about halving the prescreeners then? Have half of them show up on each day.

Then you get very inconsistent results, that's a terrible idea.
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby Warlike Swans » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:28 pm

l33tmeatwad wrote:
Songbird21 wrote:Hmmm. Well, what about halving the prescreeners then? Have half of them show up on each day.

Then you get very inconsistent results, that's a terrible idea.


If the categories were divided between the two groups (so Group A judges 3 categories, and Group B judges the other 3 categories), it wouldn't matter as long as there were no judge's choice award, and no entries were allowed to move categories.

It would still create more work for the coordinator, and each pre-screener group would still probably be pushed past their peak attention spans.* So it's questionable whether the benefit would offset the extra effort. Also, I prefer that pre-screeners be able to move the category of videos if need be.

*I'm attention deficit, so it's possible that I underestimate the attention span of others.
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby pacotacoshell » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:18 pm

If there's a video that's really good and DESERVES to be in the finals, and I was a pre-screener, even if the video was the 80th out of 100, it was near midnight, and I was dying from sleep deprivation, I would still be interested in it and give it a proper score. If your video isn't compelling and engaging, what do you expect? It's not the pre-screeners' fault that they can't get into your video, it's you not making an interesting one. This is what makes a contest a contest. It's about finding the best, most unique, and entertaining video and showcasing it to the audience for votes. If you didn't make the cut this year, then figure out why you didn't. A lot of people say they mainly go for popular songs and animes. Well if they do, then why aren't you doing it? Just because these other people utilize this information doesn't make them worse than you. Even if a lot of the finalists use popular songs and animes, they still do it well and make it interesting and engaging. This contest has been producing a lot of great videos that I still watch to this day, so there's nothing that should be changed about it. People just need to stop complaining, suck it up, and think of something better for next year or just don't enter at all. :l
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby DriftRoot » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:58 pm

Even if the screening process is less than ideal, is there actually a problem with the process so severe that the contest results are being skewed? If the issue is the WAY the contest is run, and not the results, well...if the contest is fair, what does it matter to us if the screening process is one marathon session or two shorter sessions? Whether people are having the time of their lives or dragging themselves through the process? That's between the contest coordinator and his/her prescreeners to work out, right?

Yes, as long as it's worked out between the coordinators and the prescreeners, and not dragged into public view.

What troubles me, year after year, are comments about how unpleasant so many people seem to find the AB screening process. Seems like the majority of prescreeners who have anything to say about this subject spend most of their time complaining and making negative statements about the contest, the entries and the editors. It happens often enough that I just don't find it funny, or even something to joke about anymore. I also start wondering whether all this negativity means there IS a problem with the process and whether that problem is compromising the integrity of the contest itself. I would need more information to make that call, though; right now I just wonder and, as said before, put a lot of faith in the contest coordinator. Whether other people come to the same conclusion is up to them.
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby xDreww » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:19 pm

kiarrens wrote:
xDreww wrote:Nope not really. I'm just saying the facts.

That an audience choice award is chosen by the convention audience? Yes, that is an indisputable fact.


Of course, but thats not the only thing I was talking about lol
Also I wasn't only talking about Anime Boston, or any specific video or myself. Theres plenty of other videos that deserved prizes award to them, and didn't win because of the popular anime/song. Thats the fact I'm trying to say Karrens.
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Re: The Anime Boston prescreenings

Postby xDreww » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:20 pm

Nope not really. I'm just saying the facts.[/quote]

Got ya a cold one to drink while watching the AMV finalists for Anime Boston.
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How I am I going to watch when I'm not from Boston?
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